I'd like to point out all the Primes besides the Fallen killed themselves on Earth.

Given the 19,000 year span and the Allspark landing on Earth 12,000 years ago Optimus was presumably still a hatchling during the battle of the Primes.

Plus if we take Jetfire's testimony of his "father" early Cybertronians did not originally transform.

 

There's conflict between the comic and novel, and the film here. In the former two, only one Prime survived, built the tomb from his brothers' remains, and sealed it with his life essence. In the film they all sacrificed themselves. Therefore the hatchling of Optimus could have been that one Prime during the time he was the last one left and when he sacrificed himself. There are many conflicts in the film version of Jetfire's exposition and the comic one. The comic one provides a lot more of a tie-in of the Prime's Energon quest and the AllSpark.

 

I really feel this topic is pointless. Autobots = scientists & civilians forced to war... Decepticons = Cybertron military. Formed by Megatron on The Fallen's order. Simple.

 

No it isn't that simple as the comics contradicts the movie.

Between the comics, novel and the film, the film holds greater relevance and canonicity than the comics or novel.

The films establishes some things about the Transformers. Autobot is an abbreviation of what Transformers are, Autonomous Robotic organisms. The first Decepticon was the Fallen. Megatron is not the founder as portrayed in various comic continuities. The current civil war is at most 19,000 years old and at least 12,000 years old. The Transformer war here did not span millions of years. The Decepticons somewhat remember pieces of their history. The Autobots kept theirs in the Allspark, most of them ignorant of their history.

 

go read the Defiance comic series & you wont be confused no more. Trust me. I've just summarise the whole event in the Defiance storyline.

 

I read it! And the Fallen wasn't trapped in some sarcophagus's dimension in the film.

Defiance also contradicts the first film's Prequel comic.

The Decepticons' origins were attributed to the Fallen by Jetfire. The oldest bot besides the Fallen himself. Jetfire knew of the war but clearly didn't know of Optimus Prime. What does this imply? The Autobot-Decepticon factions were at existence even before Optimus' leadership. Defiance states the factionalism occured because of both Optimus and Megatron.

Now in the first film it implied Cybertron was at peace till Megatron went after the Allspark. Now between the 5000 year period between Earth's first contact and launching the Allspark the Decepticons could've bidded their time much like the BW's Predacons till they could challenge the Autobot establishment.

 

This begs the question...is the Defiance comic really a reliable source, since it contradicts, pretty much, nearly everything in the movie and the official movie adaptation, and the novel? And all the other official works?

I mean, it sounds like it'd be a fairy tale retelling of the real happenings of the Movieverse. It's like referencing the old Tour of Duty TV show for a paper on the Viet Nam War. Close, but too many differences to make it real...

 

I'm going to treat Defiance and the rest of the comics much like I treat the Trek novels and suplementary materials.

If it wasn't on screen it did not happen in canon.

The fact that the IDW TF Movieverse contradicts the movies should be proof of them not being relavant in the movie storyline.

 

comics=balony! movie is all dat matters. wait, in movie wtf was fallen doing for17000 years?

 

19,000 actually since it was 17,000 BC.

From what Jetfire said the Fallen started the Decepticons and sent him and his fellow Seeker to find the Matrix.