I have seen the Legends Constructicons, BB Shockwave. For Legends they are impressive, I agree. However, they are still Legends figure and so are smaller, and less advanced in transformation. As I said, I will still be buying the Legends set once it's available. However, I want a Devastator that trully captures the character's awesome, destructive menace. I think the Supreme does that. The Legends is less successful at achieving this goal. I am also sure that Hasbro want to maximise their profits by selling this set. No right-thinking company would do anything less.

 

That'll be in the "Vortex-grinder Devastator" that hasbro will release 2 months after the Supreme has sold out...  

Or, we might get a Devastator-shaped intelligent/programmable vacuum cleaner.

<khm>cash cow <khm>  

Glad you agree on the second point. I guess we shall have to wait and see whether they will produce another Devastator that can do both what the Supreme and Legends does. I'd say, it doesn't need to be Supreme-sized, even Leader size would work well.

However, the drop test would only apply to the individual constructicons, not Devastator, if they would be sold separately... So this law can be bent, not without breaking it...  

 

I don't think so; if the toys are going to be intended to combine, regardless of how they're sold, they gotta meet safety standards when they're all attached too. I betting that was going to be the designer's plan to sneak it by and legal caught them on it (hence all the whacky extra modes the individuals have).

Anyways, anybody going to address my action feature question, or is it doomed to be ignored in "last post of the page purgatory"?

Edit: whoops! somebody mentioned it!  

 

I would totally buy a little walking Devastator Roomba.

 

someone should do a picture of Devs and make it say " I R EATIN UR SANDZ " LOL

 

Keep in mind we've only seen the front and back of the box. The sides could list more features.

 

bet he has hidden sounds and a few more phrases like "timne for obliberation" also if u pulll the cab up the mixer up the mouth opens

 

It's Scavenger. Demolisher is the one that crashes through the bridge.

 

Nah, Encore Bruticus instead please!  

 

I hope the released Devastator has his face with red paint applications.

 

He says phrases, full phrases have they forgotten that he is supposed to be as thick as 2 planks? ( G1 intelligence tech spec=2 )

 

If everybody doesn't like him theeeeeeen more Devastator for me. 

 

Apparently he will be two feet or close to it. I actually like this Devastator.

 

Two feet wide with arms outstretched maybe.

 

I'm confused. How does everyone know he has limited articulation? How does everyone know he can't be posed on all four limbs? Has anyone actually had this figure in hand? Everyone knows that it sucks so much, where did this evidence come from? I'm not trying to be smart, I just want to know what everyone else knows. and the bit about him not transforming? Yeah, it's a bit annoying, and I hope they can pull it off for the next movie, maybe they'll create a simpler design or finally figure out how to release a better combiner. For right now, this will have to do, for me. I can understand other people's complaints, but I want a first hand opinion.

 

these toy is ugllllllyyyyy...it looks like an ugly dog begging

 

man what a rip off no individual robot modes. I see hasbro a year later doing a "premium" series devstator that DOES have individual robot modes as i can see a lot of folks passing on this. While nice its kind of a huge let down that to have the individual bots we have to buy them seperately essentially spending anywhere between 300-400 some odd dollars to have the big bot and single bots.

 

I've given this alot of thought because having a combiner Devastator seems almost too tempting to pass by, and the resale for this figure will be huge if I change my mind later.

However, the majority is absolutely right in this matter.

One member mentioned the cost of individual parts would add up to a higher sum; but the sale of these figures doesn't go by the cost of plastic solely. We live in a mostly capitalistic society where profit is determined by overhead in a ratio with demand. These figures do very little in terms of changing.

As for the drop test theory I just don't see it being an issue. There is an old phrase that says a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If this hunched over gorilla had weaker joints to his arms (which i nthe case of him crawling would need more stability than actually designing firm poseable arms capable of holding delux figures in them) this would not be an issue.

The 2nd part of that is the whole size and weight issue. So you design the middle three combiners (and I am assuming Overload to be among them) to be less heavy than the leg and arm pieces, and down scale the damn thing. When we can have a deluxe figure like Lockdown rival the height of almost every voyager class to date then putting these guys in an oversized boxed giftset showcasing all six/seven vehicles would A) make it appear bigger and B) Allow them to shrink the overall scale. And yeah there would be some flack on the matter but not nearly as much as Hasbro is going to get at Botcon.

As far as individual modes versus the combined form, I don't think anyone is debating the matter that there would be compromises in one mode or another. But lets face it, people bought the deluxe figures from movie 1, the premium figures, the legends figures, the fast action battlers, the bumper battlers, the robot replicas; I think the fear of whether or not the robot modes of individual figures in a giftset would be saleable if that was the one that saw a sacrifice. Consider also that in Movie 2 we are looking at the Human Alliance modes of both Bumblebee and Sideswipe.... so far.

Detailing is another matter, we are seeing far less detailing on this combined Dev's compared to the deluxes. Sure some of the paint is missing from these individual figures but the molds are superior.

Lastly and this one tops it all off really, the Devastator we are getting is completely inaccurate looking save for the face; and in light of more recent information does appear to be lacking a constructicon combiner.

"Combine" all these topic elements and you get a product that is overpriced, underwhelming and innacurate. The principle of the matter at hand is if you know you are going to be taken for a song, you are the only one you can blame later on.

I think I will be settling on individual 'cons, the legends devs' and a robot replicas eventually. The Supreme Devastator offers nothing new and delivers on less than what the company is capable of. Bottom line.

 

Amen Brother. Im sure some wily, crafty individual who makes customs will figure out a way to make them combine (the indvidual pieces) or give the big bot's pieces a single robot mode but hasbro shoulda done that in the firstplace. I mean if jetfire can have a bot mode, jet mode AND combine with prime then theres no reason devestator couldn't have a cbiner mode, vehicle mode and individual bot mode. Hasbro didnt think this one through or thought that even in the midst of a depression parents will buy their kids both big bot and small bots. I think that was what they are banking on and completeists who need everything in a line. Thank the gods i only want prime jetfire and sideswipe...maybe leader megatron but that will about do it unless they make a leader bonecrusher and voyager soundwave.

 

Uh, why? If the first Devs doesn't sell they're sure as hell not going to chance a more complex one.

I can't believe anyone would seriously make that comparison. All Jetfire does is wrap around Optimus's back.