These are definitely a bit stranger than what I was anticipating, and I can't say my initial impression is a real positive one. Of course, a couple of still images obviously don't provide enough insight to draw any meaningful conclusions about how they will be characterized & voiced, how they will move, etc... so I won't presume to judge until I see more.

Regardless, I anticipate another record-setting opening weekend, another year of unique toys, and tens of thousands of awed moviegoers, myself included.

 

That plus Animated Season 3 and we're looking at a great year to be a TFs fan.

 

This thread has seriously derailed into some pretty silly "You said, then you said". Anyone care to continue talking about the thread topic?

 

I will, thanks. (Sorry, Bgrngod.)

Nope. Here's what I said:

Yes, I did include "whatever". Sorry if that wasn't clear to you. Let's break it down this way:

Just maybe it's reasonable to have all the information about a character before rendering concrete factpinions about it.

Just maybe it's reasonable to have all the information about a movie before rendering concrete factpinions about it.

Just maybe it's reasonable to have all the information about whatever before rendering concrete factpinions about it.

A factpinion, by the way, is clearly a made-up word. Just so there's no confusion, I intend it to mean an opinion stated as if it were a fact, saying it should be "obvious" to anyone.

My quote was in response to this -- especially the first sentence -- from you:

You sure seemed to be making judgments about the entire movie right there. "Stereotypical" would apply to characterization, "nonsensical" to storyline, and "vulgar" could go with either.

No backtracking whatsoever, as explained above.

Yes. My opinion statement, in the 13th post of the thread, was:

To clarify again, as you seem to need it: "I am disappointed that this Transformer character has a gold tooth." That's all. All the information needed for me to form an opinion on the looks of the gold tooth was contained within the picture.

Once more, show me where I said that. Stop putting words in my mouth. I never told anyone what to think or what not to think. I commented on reasonability.

Apparently not.

Can't imagine how it could be said better than that.  

 

Wow. How lame.

So Mr. Backtrack, isn't it convenient how you didn't highlight the word "whatever" in your own quote? Calling attention to only what we want seen, huh? You included the word "whatever". That word is very clear to me. That word means "anything". Unless you want to start changing the dictionary - thats what I took as your meaning.

Then you start dissecting my own sentence. If you read what I wrote:

"Yes, so lets continue to keep lowering and lowering our standards till we all start accepting the most vulgar, stereotypical, nonsensical movie ever made. "

"vulgar, stereotypical, and nonsensical" all describe the movie. Those 3 words are the adjective to the word "movie". I have no clue where you got "storyline" and "characterization" from the above since they aren't in my post at all. Talk about putting words in someone's mouth. I think you need to go learn some English grammar.

 

The use of such words amuses me when someone is trying to make a point. When can we expect "extremely", "utterly", "insanely", "dramatically", "incredibly", etc.?

 

I dunno, we all live to please your grammatical needs. Why don't you tell me how you want posts to be written? That way we can all please you with our verbosity even better.

 

Just stop posting, you've stated your position like 50 times already in this thread. We get it. Now move on.

 

Don't feed the troll guys.

 

I have never made one comment directed towards you. In fact, you were the one to throw the first stone. Aren't you wanting more adverbs as you said in your oh-so-friendly post?  

 

I'm annoyed by the number of stones you have thrown at other members so far. It's called empathy. You can have an opinion; just stop trying to force feed us with it. I've been guilty of that myself in the past in the Chrono Label thread and letting it go ended up being my best option.

 

Lol. "You can have an opinion - just say it only when we want to hear it."

Thats your opinion I force feed it. People "restate" their opinions all the time on this thread. In fact, a majority of the "discussions" on this board are the same old conversations. You can restate your opinion as much as you want - you have the right to do that. As do I.

 

I've come to the conclusion that people come to this forum to state their opinions, not to read other's opinions.

Then again, opinions not stated so matter of fact result in boring threads.

 

Hey, I'd love to see how the toys of these twins turn out. I've got this strange urge to own toys of these little abominations of mother nature! Who's with me??  

 

look at how much hatred and animosity these little bastards have caused. yet another bullet point on the "why these should not be in the movie" list.

 

me, just to spite the trolls and haters here 

 

A bullet point on why they SHOULD be in the movie as well.

 

Yeah. I just want to see the movie haters cry. Their tears taste soooo good 

 

Yeah, sign me up for some Twins figures.
Skids' gold tooth should be gold chrome on the toy.  

 

If that were a reason to leave something out of the movie, there wouldn't have even been a first movie at all.

But then, I guess that would've been a good thing, since it's so universally reviled and was a commercial failure....

Yeah, turns out my supply of troll kibble just ran out. Sorry I had such an overstock to begin with, folks.