Still waiting for the legacy spychangers or any RID thing really.

 

Not far off for my thoughts on human personality/intellect, really— except people have no backup system. I feel like the “me” in this body is just a complex electrical network that is gone once the organic construct that houses it dies.

 

I figure if we do have a backup, it's being imprinted upon higher dimensions like some kind of n-dimensional magnetic tape reel, lol.

 

Oh yeah, I could totally see them going for Omega Prime. But, maybe too big?

 

I don't think Hasbro's consumer market is kids like they say. I think collectors make a much larger chunk of that number. My theory is that they present numbers that show kids are the main market to maintain a larger shelf presence and desirability to the brick and mortar retailers. I beleive the market numbers are more likely 50/50 between kids and collectors. My evidence is two aspects. 1. The collector lines and kids lines have a simular amount of product on the shelves. If the kids market was bigger it would be favored more and vice a versa. 2. Evergreen is not an appeal to kids but to the older audience. 5 year olds have no connection to G1 or anything other than what is in front of them. Generally they prefer new things and not "Dad's old show". And yes, I used generalized statements and phrases. I fully understand that not everyone follows those generaizations.

 

I feel like thre is more of a chance of them making 2 leaders for Omega Prime.

 

WHAT IF THE BAYVERSE DESIGN WERE BASED ON G2 INSTEAD OF G1?

So I was looking around at some G2 figures when I saw Ironhide (gobots/ spychanger) and I was like "He looks like his bayverse version" and then I went on. I then saw Bumblebee (the gobots/ spychanger one) and again I thought "Hm, he also looks like his movie version". Then came along Prime (laser), now this just screamed bayverses Prime because the truck modes are similar, the both have flames. For Jazz his movie counter part looks a lot like his G1 design but sliver and his G1 toy which was in G2 was his G1 toy.

 

The concept of Trans-Scanning was also first mentioned on G2 Spychanger Optimus Prime's package....

 

Spychangers in G2 were called Gobots. I think you might be streching it a bit but I can definetly think of this as a possibility as G2 was the last time those G1 characters had new toys by the time the first movie was being made.

 

Thanks for the correction, I just used spychangers cause I think people know those toys more as spychangers cause of RID then gobots cause when people say gobots, people think the original gobots.

 

Fair point but you could say G2 Gobot.

 

Snarlsaber is inspired on Cybertron Snarl
Skullcruncher is inspired on Megaligator
Silverfang is inspired on Wolfang

 

Siege Apeface was a mould from Titans return that got updated with articulation and released to boost numbers, maybe Snapdragon too. Apeface stands out like a sore thumb in that line to me

 

The writers of Transformers intended to end the story with Transformers the Movie in 1986…
Hasbro had WTF have you done moment and season 3 was conceived… then the hate mail… rewritten… then reality set in and The Rebirth was the new Movie ending. Happy note.

what if it did end in 86… they sat on it for 3 years and let the pot simmer then brought it back… or didn’t till 2005… who knows…

 

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

There are more than a few season three episodes that were written nearly the same time as some of the early scripts for the film

 

I do not… it’s just a theory… call it a conspiracy… it always felt like it was at some point meant to end there… the low animation budget of season 3 makes it feel cheap while at the same time having some of the best soundtrack, stories and dialogue of the series. Then dark awakening felt like a middle finger to corporate… he’s gone we killed him… didn’t you get the memo… no… ok we will do it again just for good measure… and toss him in a super nova Nobody is coming back from that… and he’s back without a scratch…
I have always wondered if they at some point in the writing wanted to end on a high note… go out with a bang. Perhaps it was a just in case we don’t get a season 3 we will leave it here.

 

Not a problem at all although the same evidence you just posted above leads me to believe that it was season three that was intended to be the end and that the decision was made early so they chose to save money on the animation

And I could see why you would think that way but the hard evidence doesn’t bare that out

G1 season three episodes well written before the movie was in theaters, In fact more than 90% of season three was being animated and put together at about the exact same time the film was finishing up its production .Not to mention that Dark Awakening was a very early episode of season 3

In fact the dialogue script for the production of the episode is dated for May of 86

The animated movie wasn’t released until August 1986……So how could the “dark awakening” be a middle finger to corporate reminding them they killed prime when there was no backlash from the parents of fans at that point , Because it really wasn’t known by the general fandom at that point that he was definitely going to die

Those complaints from the parents of fans came after the movie was released

And there’s another point, It was not the shows writers that chose and made the decision to kill Optimus prime, It wasn’t the writers of the film that made the decision to kill Optimus prime………..It was Hasbro corporate that made that decision

it was Hasbro Corporate that forced the idea of killing the killing of Optimus prime on the creators of the film……….So that they had room to feature new characters in season three episodes so that they can sell sell new toys

so how could “dark awakening” be a middle finger to corporate supposedly reminding them that they killed Optimus when the idea to kill Optimus was corporates idea to begin with?

And selling toys was the bottom line for Hasbro not the cartoon itself, now head Hasbro only created the new characters of the movie I could see where your idea was theoretically possible But considering they put out an entire catalog of new toys for that year it seems to me that the intent was at least to do complete third season

 

This sounds more plausible

 

Does anyone have a theory on why Mainframe switched Wolfang with Tigatron because they didn't want to make a brand new model and then made a brand new model for Blackarachnia even though she was just a repaint of Tarantulas?

 

Easy (but still my guess)
Money time Effort

I know is much easier to make computer models these days but that just wasn’t the case in the 90s

Rendering yet an other different character would have been a bit of an undertaking and saving some money doing modifications to an exsisting model was chosen as long as it would work in the cartoon

Just as easy, same thinking but in reverse

Trying to just mod/reuse the Trantulas character design wouldn’t have work in this case as well as it did with the cats , after all she was one of the few females they wanted her to look a bit more feminine