I find the whole defending gatekeeping thing kind of ridiculous. Yeah, more exposure can increase the chance of so-called "toxic" fans coming around but, for better or worse, that chance is always there. To me, it just sounds like some sort of hipster defense of "it was cooler when it was less mainstream" and trying to deflect criticism of complaining about certain types of fans that you don't like. Everyone will push back against toxic fans, but there is no need to keep anyone else out, no matter how casual.

 

Yeah, jury is still out on the "different approach" part.

As is just how much Hasbro values that movie-enjoying community. How's SS Skids and Mudflap?

To be frank, I think you're counting chickens before they hatch there.

 

Evolving and new blood joining is good actually. This is a franchise about toy robots, I think a lot of us need a reality check if “gatekeeping is good actually” is an opinion people don’t immediately shut down for being shitty. As soon as someone complains about something going mainstream it immediately sends up red flags. I want our franchise to succeed and evolve. Might not enjoy everything Hasbro does with the brand but the whole point of transformers is change, transforming and evolving, stagnation kills franchises. Plus the new kids growing up with transformers are far more important than us old blood who will eventually die out or move on. Fresh perspectives are only a bonus.

 

Bay stuff is still in Studio Series even if other things have popped up recently. Hasbro possibly wanting to avoid controversy by not including two controversial characters, no matter how unjustified, does not in any way show how much they care about the movie-enjoying community. Hell, Sam Smith on Instagram even said that Bayverse is the Studio Series "bread and butter", plus didn't you doubt both Galvatron and The Fallen and had a meltdown when you were wrong about those? Way to try to make what @Shadow25 said to be some sort of bad thing. The movie appreciation thread in the toy forum is great and is genuinely one of the few movie-related threads to not have people ruin it.

Plus MPMs still get made with Blackout coming out for the 15th anniversary, the first movie got a rerelease for the 15th anniversary, and then they released a boxset of the 2007 Autobots for the anniversary. So I'd say they do value the movie-enjoying community.

 

I wouldn't know, I'm still too busy enjoying the SS Fallen and Galvatron that were featured in the previous version of this quote of yours!

 

One day it will happen, the dream is real

 

Skids and Mudflap confirmed for 2024 then!

 

I'm talking about fanbase in general, any fanbase.

I mean, I literally said "the bigger the fanbase, the harder to filter".

It's not that smaller communities won't have any cancer, it's that smaller communities will be easier to filter. It's not just "cooler hipster" or whatever, because I've seen local fandom that went from chill to bad thanks to its series getting anime adaptation.

And nowhere I said that is bad. You can evolve and welcoming new blood without being mainstream. It'll grow slower of course.

I love how people seems to just read the first half of my message and goes "NUH UH MAINSTREAM IS NOT BAD"

 

What I wouldn’t do for an SS voyager class Ice Cream Truck Skids and Mudflap designed by King Samlock.

 

Now that I think about it, Prime has his trailer at the end of BB. What if they bring back his armory in ROTB and we get to see some more of his weapons?

 

Imagine we got to see the proper combat deck in live action... I'd freak out

 

Unironically I think that'd be cool. Give me something God Ginrai-esque and that'd be awesome.

 

Live-action Roller  

 

What I'd like to see is what happens is when the live action movies finally take a hard turn away from what we already have, and how many people remain with the franchise and how many depart.

 

Damn true, Hasbro really did just not make those characters… alongside BW Polarclaw and G1 Gears. I guess that must mean they don’t value those continuities either?

 

Polar Claw was rumored to have originally been slated for Kingdom, but was replaced by Tigatron.

And Gears? Why would they need to do Gears? He got a figure back in 2014!

 

Sounds like it could work but it's impossible to know what's the plan after ROTB.

For me I'm content with fan made films or shorts.

 

Arcee has had like 3-4 updates since then. I guess they care about g1 arcee more than gears and polar claw.