AOE Scale Chart Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Red Goblin, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Steampunk13

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    Gotta remember the weird angle that the concept art is positioned at. Makes everything in the front look way bigger and everything in the back look way smaller. Makes scaling it with a vehicle kind of screwy. I get what you’re saying tho, a larger vehicle is always preferable when dealing with these bigger cons (although I believe Devcon may have been oversized in one scene. I’ll have to doublecheck).

    Something else that’s weird to note is that Devcon’s concept art features both his smaller vehicle mode and his mismatched vehicle kibble. Meaning during the concept phase, Devcon was designed with a certain vehicle in mind, likely the larger one, and then it was switched to the smaller one for some reason. Perhaps there were plans at one point to actually feature the vehicle on set, but they realized it would be too expensive and opted for a smaller one before scrapping the plans entirely? (Similar to what happened with Devastator and his insanely mismatched concept art) What I wouldn’t give to see what was going on behind the scenes of these crazy films lol
     
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  2. Conor

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    Im going to try and edit the photo to make his proportions better
     
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    I wouldn't bother since it's just gonna be another game of eyeballing that won't really get you anything more accurate or telling than what you've already found (It would probably be better to use a movie screenshot where Devcon is facing directly towards the camera). Then again, fan renders are always fun to make regardless of whether or not they're actually helpful.
     
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    Rescaled the Primal/Battletrap shot using the NFL Primal render. Puts him back at 22 feet:

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    Hmm. Featherless and bipedal. That’s a man.


    All my current scale work based on ROTB footage, renders, and toys:

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    Edit: this is all outdated
     
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    Awesome work you're doing here with the sizes. I was wondering if anyone knows of any size charts that include shockwave?
    also I noticed this logo in one of the size charts for representing a cybertronian jet. Is that logo cannon and what's the name of the logo?
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    I believe that’s just a random cyberglyph that RedGoblin chose to represent a vehicle of unknown alien design. Also, there was an official DOTM chart with Shockwave present, but the image was too low quality to make out his official height. He seemed to be close in size to Megs tho, if not the same height.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. That's unfortunate. Do you know what the site name was that had all the official size chart images for the bayverse. I can try to use a archive site to get a better resolution maybe.
     
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    That’s been attempted before. Unsuccessfully of course. Image quality is simply too low to be enhanced in any meaningful way. If you want to find anything scale related like that tho, you can find it here in these pages or just by searching for it online. The TFwiki has a scale charts section as well:

    Scale charts - Transformers Wiki

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    If all else fails, @Steampunk13 and I have our own ones that we have made
     
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    There was a higher resolution image found:
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    I compiled numbers for official heights a few years ago. Hope it helps:
    AOE Scale Chart Thread
     
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    Damn. The image quality on that one is still leagues too low. Better than the first one I found though. Thanks.
     
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    I can't do it rn but if you scale this image using the torsos, it could give u shockwaves height Screenshot_20221230-012501_Video Editor.jpg
     
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    You know, it’s funny. I’ve actually had that same kind of screenshot just sitting in my scale chart for months. I haven’t attempted to scale it yet because I keep switching to other projects. Guess today might as well be the day.
     
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    so Springer was supposed to be in 3. Huh
     
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    Oh yeah you’re right. Never noticed that. Makes sense though given the big Osprey presence in the final battle.
     
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    This was, for years, our only lead on obtaining official numbers for DOTM. I recall, don’t take my word as gospel, that this chart was a bonus feature for the Blu-Ray release of the film. If anyone happens to own a copy, please let us know so we can lay this debate to rest. Thank you!

    Transformers Live Action Movie Blog (TFLAMB): Visual Effects Details for Transformers: Dark of the Moon

    EDIT: I also reverse searched the higher resolution chart. It lead back only to a Russian TF forum where the OP said:

    Which Google Translated to:

    If they Googled & found that chart that means there must be an original source that Google missed out on.

    https://diary.ru/~tformers/?tag=730439&n=t
     
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    I’ll see if my blu ray has it.

    Nope. No bonus features on mine.
     
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    Aw shucks, thanks though!

    I did some extra digging and found that it was only on specific editions of the film:
    Anyone with this specific copy, please DM me. Thank you!
     
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    Ahh, the very first official chart that started it all. Thanks ILM.
     
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    Got Shockwave’s height down as 32 feet using the scenes where he interacts with Prime. Incidentally, this is roughly the same height you get when you scale the low quality DOTM chart. The studio series toyline also has Shockwave as being shorter than all first trilogy Megatron figures:

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    And, just for fun, I found a scene where Megatron wasn’t shrunk down. It was the sequence where he tears Sentinel a new exhaust port lol:

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    Wish he wasn’t nerfed after 2007. Dude was an absolute monster when they’d actually let him loose.
     
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