Yep, that doesn't justify increasing their prices well over the 1$ were used to per 1-3 years. its short term profit chasing and they're rightfully suffering for it. they did the same thing to Marvel Legends, and you cannot possibly argue that those are not comparable to MOTU stuff.
justify it to yourself all you want, all I see is blatant greed.

 

I’m not defending Marvel Legends, am I?

I’m not happy about the rate of inflation either, but it has increased in recent years. And yeah, that’s the biggest reason for the price increases. Remember the Fall of Cybertron toys? The first Transformers toys that were designed around budget cuts trying to maintain the existing price point? Compare those to what we have now with the increased price.

 

I didn't say you were defending Marvel Legends, I am simply explaining to you that these price increases are not a cost thing, Hasbro doesn't price stuff according to how much it costs them to make, they price it according to how much they know they can squeeze out of the consumer, and they're paying for it now finally.
I don't see how Fall of Cybertron has anything to do with this, stuff like Combiner Wars & POTP wasn't far off from it and it came well after.
they haven't raised the quality, they simply redistributed their resources. WFC toys are less hollow than Prime Wars stuff but they're also smaller, and I'd argue the plastic & build quality has only gotten worse.
unless Hasbro shows us their production costs(they won't) then I have no reason to believe it isn't greed. not when the toys are getting smaller, the quality is going down, and the price is going up. I don't know how many ways I can say this, but its just blatant greed and you're defending it as if its some charitable deed they're doing giving us better toys than Fall of Cybertron.

 

Okay, if you’re going to actually pretend the Prime Wars toys were the same quality as the FOC toys, and that what we have now is actually worse than the Prime Wars toys, there’s zero point in trying to talk to you anymore.

 

that's a pretty good way to twist what I said, but go off I guess.

 

Yeah the toys we have now are no way worse than the PW's stuff overall.

Also I before typing this held my FOC Voyager Grimlock and my CW Voyager Hot Shot in both my hands and messed with them. I can tell you both holding and looking at them you can tell the difference so yeah the PW's and FOC toys are not the same.

 

probably this would be his knee bend so around 45 hope it is useful

 

Absolutely correct.

 

Bends more than that, the panel on the back of the leg can rotate around to sit on the side of his leg to free up a deeper bend.

 

We know his knees can bend 90 degrees if you move the kibble to the sides.

 

thanks guys i know i was talking about with kibble i actuallly post before it can bend pass 90 to without the kibble

 

from takaratommy mall and tformers

 

Pics aren't showing up.

 

The more pics I see of this guy, the worse those wheels look.
Getting a better look at the legs tho, at least it seems like adding a panel to the inside of the legs would be pretty easy. 'Cause, damn, they look terrible.

 

hope it helps

 

Oh man, the feet can even replicate the pincer gimmick from the original!

This is getting better and better.

 

same, all I see is

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same here. its all I see as well.

 

Yup

 

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