Not only did they have to bring back Spoiler 10, they also had to bring back 1,5,6, 7 and 8 Yes Davidson, Baker, McCoy, and McGann all show up. They even rigged up scenes so they could fill in for Jodi due to some holographic nonsense and interact with old companions. (All of them out acted her) Could have called this episode the 6 doctors
It's happened before. The very first regeneration from Hartnell into Troughton has the clothes change. The first Doctor collapses wearing his familiar clothing, and when the second Doctor sits up, he's wearing something completely different.
See now, that's frustrating to me, because I did look up prior regenerations before making that post, including the first. I'm now annoyed with myself for completely managing to miss that detail after specifically looking for it, so... cheers for that
No problem. It doesn't help that episode 1 of Power of the Daleks is missing, so we have to go by photos and clips, but Troughton is definitely not wearing Hartnell's costume when he stands up for the first time. There's also the case of the 4th Doctor wearing boots all through his last story, but when we see the 5th Doctor changing clothes after the regeneration, he's wearing shoes. I think someone in costuming wasn't paying attention, but if we want to count that as a partial clothes change due to the regeneration, I'd say it's fair game. I can't think of any other examples though, prior to this most recent one.
Meh.. it's worse than that... the "curious surprise" I mentioned in my initial post was based on a complete misidentification... despite having seen him referenced in relation to the show, Spoiler for some reason, I saw Neil Patrick Harris as Matt Smith, so I thought 11 was coming back, too... I did a stupid...
Well, that wasn't as bad as I feared. It was no where near Chibnall's worst story, but thank the gods this era is done! What I liked: Teagen and Ace being back. Their banter was great. The Russian Doll Cybermen. That was a really cool concept. Dan leaving right at the start. Good riddance! He was the most useless companion since Mel. The ending scene with the former companions. Ace and Teagan seeing their Doctors. What I didn't like: Rushed plot that made little sense. The sound mixing continues to suck. Seriously, is it that hard to not have the sound effects overpower the dialog? Mel being in the companion scene because she was left in the future. The horrid dance number scene that just came out of nowhere. Like what the hell was that???? NO conclusion to any of the plot threads Chibnall set up at all during his run. The cliche, predictable ending thanks to all of the internet rumors from earlier in the year.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, this recent run never happened. Never watched a lick of it because I didn't want to support garbage. So...I guess I'm blissfully ignorant going into the upcoming special with David. As fun as it sounds like having the other Doctors make cameos in the last episode, I just simply refuse to see anything Chibnall did as canon.
Sadly you may already consider Chibnall episodes canon, he wrote some mediocre episodes under Davies and Moffit for 10, 11 and 12.
I hate that I have to wait for it to go on HBO Max or Amazon Video at some future date because I don't have BBC America, which gives me time to see all the spoilers on social media or what have you. Makes me wish I still had torrenting software.
Can you not sign up for a free trial of AMC+? That trailer told me nothing about what is going to happen. It was barely even worth watching.
I hate it when they stuff way too many things in one episode Spoiler Also is Tennant the 14th Doctor or still the 10th?
14th in this case I believe. Yeah that's confirmed now Doctor Who Showrunner Confirms Ncuti Gatwa's Actual Regeneration Number
The end of the chibnall era and not soon enough. That said, I did kind of enjoy this episode. Only problem is that the only parts I enjoyed were the scenes with the previous Doctors. Great to see 5 and 7 interact with their companions while dresssed for the part, great to see Bradley back as a manifestation of the first Doctor, C Baker as the fifth and above all, McGann as the eighth -- and in his regular outfit. I never really cared for Tegan and even less now. Ace I liked back then and I think she was used pretty well. But there ends the positive. The episode itself, the story and the concepts, was a complete mess. With Chibnall I'm always reminded of Complex vs Complicated storytelling: a complex story is good, a complicated is not. This episode definitely fell (again) into the complicated category. We hop all over the place, there are many characters with several of them not having something meaningful to do, the plot beats make you scratch your head and say "no, this doesn't really work" Things that just don't make sense: Spoiler - if that energy source was such an incredibly rare creature, then why was it transported by a barely defended space train? - cool action scene with the crew jumping down from the rope ladder to the train, but how were they going to get back? - If all Dan had to do was wave the sonic at the controls, then why didn't the Doctor do this when they were there and she told him to do it? - why was the Master Rasputin? Apparently so he was friends with the Tsar. But... - why did he need to be friends with the Tsar? Apparently so he could use his palace. But... - why did he need this palace? He didn't. He just needed a room to house some Daleks and Cybermen and to regenerate the Doctor. - What was the purpose of the forced Regeneration? Apparantly to besmirch the name of the Doctor. But this "new Doctor" was just the Master in an amalgation of Doctor outfits (that kind of looked better than 13th's normal garb) saying he was the Doctor and caused all the problems. It would've made more sense if this Master Doctor still looked like the Doctor. - what was the purpose of Vinder being there? All he did was point a gun at the Master-Doctor and shoot him, but just before we had Yaz aiming a gun at the Master and telling him/us she had weapons training and knew how to use it. - Why 1916? Wouldn't any other time period, even 2022, have worked just as well. - If the extra planet was a conversion planet that was going to convert organic life into Cybermen, does this mean they were going to change history and turn everybody on 1916 Earth into a Cybermen? If so, how were they going to the same in 2022? - what was the purpose of the Volcanic eruptions again? Weren't they planning on capturing humans to convert them into Daleks or Cybermen? - Is Kate really that stupid? "You can have me if you let my troops go", and then surrenders without checking if the troops were indeed released. Especially since it was a diversion to give Tegan time and waiting for this confirmation would've taken time. - So Tegan leaves for the cellar of the building, Kate calls the Cybermen, the Cybermen walk up to her, she negotiates, they walk back...and Tegan is still only about halfway? - How would they have captured the Doctor if there hadn't been this one Dalek willing to betray them? - Not sure about the timing, but I got the impression that the Doctor tagged Ace and Tegan before she learned that the Master was going to erase her. - great that Graham & Dan have set up this group, but save themselves all attending stopped travelling with the Doctor decades ago. Obviously Tegan was still bitter, but she seems to be an exception. Ace was fine, Sarah Jane and Jo seemed fine in the SJA stories, and I suspect most others were as well. (And too bad they didn't ask any of the 8th's companions -- although I admit not remembering how they left.) - And why did Yaz have to leave? Because the Doctor regenerated? Ben & Polly, Sarah Jane, Adric, Tegan & Nyssa, Peri, Mel, Rose and Clara were all companions that stayed with the Doctor when he regenerated. - If the Master knew everything about the Doctor, even the past lives she doesn't remember, then why didn't he recognise the Ruth Doctor? etc...etc...etc... I was entertained, but only by the presence of the previous Doctors. In that Chibnall improved on Moffat's anniversary story: that really should've featured at least McGann and not the War Doctor. And so the Chibnal era ends in a fitting way: an over complicated story with too many characters running around doing too little and plotpoints that just don't make any sense. Not really interesting, not really entertaining, and it didn't really make sense. And so many plotpoints built up throughout the series, were left dangling.
The first regeneration did change the clothes, however. When they did the animated versions, they fixed that continuity issue by having Troughton wake up in hartnell's clothes and the ring and jacket just sorta fell off him as they were now too big, and he quickly grabs his jacket from a coat hook or something while talking in the scene, quickly and easily putting him in his clothes for the rest of the episode. Moffat considered using mcgann but he didn't want to sully the romantisicm that eight had built up over the years by making him the battle hardened doctor. He wanted to use nine but eccleston refused to come back. Haven't watched this episode, didn't even know it was on, but if all these cameos are coming back, i may watch it just for that. And i did enjoy the guy playing the master, he was always entertaining as a performer, even if the stories made no sense. I'm assuming I'm not gonna be that lost with the plot having stopped watching after the timeless child.
For those that didn't watch it this episode was more or less how many cameos of classic characters could they cram into it. Plot was usual Chibnal bland stuff so they did it to make people watch and remember it better because look so and so showed up.
Actually, I forgot to put that in my did not like list. What the hell was the deal with that little girl? Other than being some energy thing, we didn't learn jackshit about her.
It was the "holographic" way the Energy Spaghetti Monster chose to present itself so that people would try to protect it (there was a line to that effect when The Doctor saw it on Cybertron).
I'm more referring to his showrunner status. I'm personally taking this entire run and dumping it into the "mostly ignorable" bin that Big Finish lives in.
Aw man, these little scenes tug at the heartstrings. I have such affection for the original series characters, and for all my complaints about the modern show, moments like this hit just right.
