MP-48+ Nemesis Lio Convoy (Beast Wars)

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  1. Markdelg

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    That wasn’t from the English dub, per TFWiki.
     
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    Then why the Japan dub never mentioned mars being rebuilt.
     
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    Just watched the Japanese version with English subtitles. You are right, they don’t say anything about Mars. I wonder why tfwiki added that…
     
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    Now with translation...., it makes even less sense. It is like a bad fanfic. So I guess like Last Bot Standing this is the end of the world/universe, and Blue Bird of Happiness is trying to resurrect Lioconvoy but using Earth because it was once Unicron (WUT?) and they get attacked by a hyena bot dude whom Unicron made to eat corpses... And Lioconvoy comes back as a mix of Unicron and Lioconvoy which I guess means he talks like one of those delinquent anime protagonists and is super rude to his saviour, but still wants to help. And I guess because he is part Unicron, he can gain energy by eating rock? :D 
    The funniest part was when he just goes \"Yeah that sounds like something I would do\" :D 
    So guess next issue, Galvatron will show up and will want to turn Lio-Unicron into his new body, but needs a lot of transforming parts to do it... :p 
     
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    Leo Prime was resurrected on earth due to the planet still having some traces of Angolmois-Energie. And apperently some part of Unicrons spirit was attached to the energy, which now created a hybried between Leo Prime and Unicron and both parts seem to have some form of amnesia, while inheriting abilities from both. And the hyena con, named Untite, is another Cyborg Beast, like Max-B, Hellscream, Dirgegun and Thrustor.
     
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    Alright, it’s still a meh story, but u know this is a neat concept, prime unicron literally, like he has a matrix and that’s neat
     
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    I'm not sure what subtitled version of Headmasters you watched, but if you listen to Fortress's farewell speech to Daniel, he does say "Kasei", which is Mars's name in Japanese. I believe the subtitles might have missed that. I don't speak Japanese so I can't exactly tell you what Fortress actually said. What I can say is that he did mention Mars in some way.
     
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    But that subtitle came from Shout dvd they mistranslated fortress did say Kasei.
     
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    Huh, unusually straightforward story for Sakamoto. Feels like his stuff usually involves bizarre references to half a dozen different obscure JG1 stories, but all you really need to know for this was BWII
     
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    Funny how, like TFWiki mentions, the premise of this story has a good bit in common with Last Bot Standing.
     
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    According to the translation source she's a fembot.
     
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    I watched the Shout Factory version. And you might be on to something. They might have missed that in the subtitles. So all this time they did in fact follow up on what happened to Mars. This must have been a recent edit in the TFWiki, because the last time I checked they had pointed out the discrepancy of Mars getting destroyed but reappearing in Victory and BWII.
     
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    This is what the Wiki has written in the "Misconceptions and Urban Legends" page about the matter:

    "Mars was destroyed in The Headmasters. Therefore, all of its later Japanese G1 appearances are continuity errors.

    The planet Mars was blown up by the Decepticons in the fifteenth episode of the Transformers: The Headmasters cartoon. Yet, it made later appearances in both the Victory and Beast Wars II cartoons as a fully-intact, definitely-not-destroyed planet. For decades, fans in the West took these later appearances of Mars following its destruction to be, well, a glaring continuity error. However, it actually isn't.

    In the final episode of The Headmasters, the Autobots succeeded in finally driving the Decepticons off the Earth for good, and prepared to leave the planet themselves. When saying goodbye to the Witwickys, the Autobot leader Fortress stated that, among many other tasks ahead of them, the Autobots planned to rebuild Mars as part of their efforts to bring peace to the universe. Evidently, they succeeded, given Mars's aforementioned later appearances.

    The Western fandom's perception that Mars's appearances post-The Headmasters were in error stemmed from the fact that, in all official and unofficial English-subtitled releases of The Headmasters, Fortress's line about rebuilding Mars was completely overlooked and left out of the subtitle translations. It was, however, mentioned in the English dub produced by Omni Productions, but for the longest time, that was believed to have been an invention of the dub, rather than a (surprisingly) accurate translation of the Japanese dialogue.

    In truth, Mars being rebuilt was mentioned in the Japanese dialogue from the very beginning, and the Western fandom at large simply failed to notice."


    Basically, it would seem that @TheDragonDAFan is correct.
     
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    I honestly really like the coloring on DALP compared to his LP version… and the concept of him basically being a massively shrunken down reborn Unicron is interesting IMO.
     
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    Bluebolt uses watashi, so that doesn’t tell us anything about gender. The panel with the cutesy heart makes me think she’s female though.
     
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    I'm still bummed out that they're using the very Hasbro-centric "Leo Prime" in the name instead of "Lio Convoy".

    Meanwhile, we need that Bluebolt repaint of BWII Skywarp like ASAP. Followed by a minor retool (new tail, crest on the bird head) & repaint as Articuno, and extensive retools as Zapdos, Moltres, Lugia, & Ho-oh...yesss!!:cool: :cool: :cool: 
     
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    https://twitter.com/ChromeTyranno/status/1374509861984071689

    I would like if somehow, Hasbro were to adopt Grimlockimus's Shattered Glass Airazor concept to add to the lineup with Kingdom Airazor, Skywarp, and Bluebolt.

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    https://twitter.com/id_armed/status/1435951120463974407

    Plus a take on Beast Wars: Uprising Stiletto.

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