MPM-13 Blackout

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by williammmw, Apr 15, 2022.

  1. TF Hot Rod

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    Minus the TFA looking Optimus head, they are cursed IMO, these one for BB is just weird.
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    Fucking nightmares
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    This one isn't terrible.
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    Of the more G1 looking robot heads this one by Don Figueroa's character study was pretty great ngl.
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    Again I'd agree we needed these first in order to help the G1 elements working in LA.
     
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    Yeah, a lot of early Bayverse stuff is uber rough looking, but I like all the stuff they came up with in a retrospective sorta way when comparing it all to what we all saw once it was all finalized.

    Although, Beebles' early design from when the BB Movie was still in "Prequel" status is fucking hideous and I hate it.

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    I thought that was a fan design. No way that ugly thing is what was actually planned.
     
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    Agreed, especially since those finalized stuff were what I grew up with. It is interesting to see how different a character is when they started. Especially Bumblebee.
    Forgot about these and yeah agreed, while I don't hate the Bayverse stuff sometimes simpler and smoother is better than multiple parts. But even compared to some Bayverse designs this is just TOO much. It's both ugly and just too much detail and parts especially those 'things" hanging behind his head.

    I know not everyone likes the BBM design aesthetic or Movie Bumblebee in general but I think we can all agree that the final design is a huge upgrade from this early concept art.
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    Absolutely. Bayverse BB is just My Guy because he's the Bee I grew up loving.

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    And Knightverse BB takes his look and simplifies it to a very nice degree, while still retaining a lot of the DNA from his Bayverse designs. turning him into an adorable little Junebug. They also did a great job portraying him as a capable warrior despite just how small he is when compared to the others.

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    Also, just for fun: Here's some early Bayverse Bee head designs:

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    If your eyes bled while looking at those, then I apologize. Here's one closest to his final design though. I really like the narrowed eyes.

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    Agreed, while I get some aren't for the design of the face I see why but personally I'll always like it since that WAS Bumblebee to me growing up.
    Agreed, love his design and face in the movie, also I feel like that is the good way to portray him since he's usually supposed to be the youngest of the bots. He has that cuteness to him but at the same time not too cute also allows him to be capable as a warrior and still be able to hold his own and since he is smaller than bots (like G1) he relies on different ways and having to be smarter to take down bigger opponents.

    It is interesting to see how much BB's face changed over time to how it was. Even the whole chest and body parts changed so much.
     
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    Since it's of course relevant, here's some random and early concept Blackout stuffs :D :

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    Dang blackout went from all sorts of names. Super Stallion, Devestator, incinerator, Soundwave at some point. A bot of many names.
     
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    I really question why he didn't end up as Soundwave though. Their whole idea behind a Live Action Soundwave was kinda clever in hindsight. Big ol' transport Aircraft flying overhead, dropping a bunch of Decepti-Minions on the ground to deal with Humans and Bots while he attacks from afar, as well as the whole EMP weapon thing.

    Yeah, it doesn't lend itself to his inherently Music related roots, but it's still a pretty neat idea. That and trying to translate Cassette-Wave into a realistic environment couldn't have not looked silly, so they clearly thought around that.
     
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    You and I pretty much share the exact same opinions to a tee. I absolutely agree with everything you said.
     
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    Here's some extra opinions I originally wanted to state but didn't cuz TLDR:

    The 80's setting was a great choice. I think overall that the 80's Aesthetic is pretty played out in entertainment these day.
    (And because I was born in the early 2000's so I of course have no attachment to the 80's)
    But setting this film in the specific time period of which TF originated was a great idea all around.

    I like Hailee Steinfeld by default, so I liked Charlie regardless. I appreciate that they allowed her and BB to part ways maturely, because spending the rest of your life running from Alien robots doesn't sound fun, Lmao.

    The Combat is excellent. I honestly never had any trouble following Bayverse fight scenes, as much as some folk like to latch onto that point. But the combat in BBM is fantastic, it's so very fluid and cohesive. What I love the most is their creative usage of transformation in a fight. We need MORE of that everywhere.

    Transforming isn't just something Cybertronians "do", it's a part of their blummin' biology, as TFP Scream kinda put it. Showing things like them controlling their transformation speed from taking a few moments, to a fraction of a second, showing them partially transform to fit into different spaces, etc. Just.. more of that please. Their alt modes aren't just convenient transportation.

    Dropkick Yeeting Bee across the field, followed by Bee reversing it by using the ensuing momentum to transform, turn right around then launch himself back into the fray, shit like that is excellent.

    I hate how they treated Peter Cullen. He's such a friendly and wise man whose deserving of the respect that voicing the red and blue childhood hero of thousands has brought him.

    The fact that they practically hung him out to dry for this film pisses me off to no end. I'm familiar with Jon Bailey from all the Screen Junkies vids I used to watch as a kid, and he's a good voice actor as is. That being said, I don't like his Soundwave or Optimus impressions at all. His Shockwave impression is fkn spot on though, I was genuinely surprised that it wasn't Corey Burton voicing Shocky.

    But his Optimus and Soundwave voices are just.. No. They both sound like he's trying a little too hard to sound like them without succeeding at it nearly as well as he does with his Shockwave voice. They originally used him as the voice of OP in the BBM because they didn't wanna pay how much Peter was asking for, but apparently it didn't workout because they brought Peter on anyway.

    Jon's Optimus impression is Good, but that's the thing, it sounds too much like an impression. It comes off as unnatural because he's forcing himself to sound like Peter which is why it doesn't work for me. Peter Cullen IS Optimus Prime through and through. The fact that they made him imitate someone doing an impression of his very own voice in order to circumvent paying the man what he's owed is the goofiest shit I've ever heard.

    Optimus can of course have his own identity outside of Peter's voice if he's given a talented enough voice actor, shout-out to the homie David Kaye. But if you want the default and iconic Optimus Prime voice: Get Peter, or just don't bother at all. Pete didn't deserve to be treated the way he was after dedicating so much of his ever lessening life into this long beloved character.

    This also reminds me of a silly TF1 audio Birthday card I got as a kid. I'd open it and hear Peter's legendary voice going "I am Optimus Prime", followed by the most generic deep voice impression of him from some random guy, going: "AND I WISH YEW A HAPPY BURTHDAY"

    Certified Bruh Moment.
     
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    Holy fuck do I ever agree with this. With very few exceptions (like Bumblebee vs. Rampage), the combat and action in Bayformers is some of the best ever put to film. Michael Bay just gets action and spectacle, which is honestly something that not a lot of directors can boast about. A very large chunk of my childhood was spent re-watching the Transformers fight scenes on YouTube over and over again. It's crazy how much detail and attention goes into those fights, and I'm not kidding when I say that I still discover new quirks about them a decade later. The ROTF forest fight is probably my single favorite piece of big-budget Hollywood action... possibly ever? Perhaps its tied with the Smallville fight in Man of Steel, but holy hell is that forest sequence just fucking perfect. I recreated that fight all the time with not just Transformers toys but other toys from different franchises because one good guy taking on three bad guys and somehow coming out on top was genuinely one of the coolest things I ever saw as a 9-year-old and could apply to pretty much any franchise that appealed to young boys.

    A-fucking-men, and quite frankly anyone that even dares to insinuate otherwise is just beyond disrespectful. The man is Optimus Prime, no ifs, ands, or buts.

    Okay now BACK ON TOPIC FOLKS THIS IS AN MPM BLACKOUT THREAD :>
     
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    It's concept art, just by someone who used 3D models rather than drawings and photo collages iirc.

    He was going to be, at a super early point. Then they wanted him to be a boombox as a nod to the original, and also gave him the ability to mass shift into a humvee. This eventually became Frenzy and Barricade, though Frenzy kept the Soundwave name for a long time. One of those early fan upsets.
     
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    Careful, any praise bayformers gets will invite some unwanted pointless debate.

    Anyway, mpm blackout looks fantastic.
     
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    Now you said the whole thing. Bay Cybertron doesn't look like G1 Cybertron

    Also called of big daddy at night
     
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    Guys the concept art is cool but let’s keep this thread on topic about the figure please. Or at least Blackout himself. Looks like the thread sorta course-corrected already, but sending this reminder anyway
     
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    his shoulders are literally a bot on their own jesus christ that looks bad
    as for blackout he is looks fantastic and i am glad they did him justice especially compared to his amazing studio series. the feet are my only issue with it but its nuts how they literally gave him a kibbleless copter mode. also while nitpicky i wish scorponok had more articulation because like come on
     
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    Personally this mp is dead to me now, I finally got a ss one with the dna kit not for some insane amount, and I’m just gonna be happy with that :) 

    I just feel like there is a lot wrong with this mp but who knows it may be better when it fully releases
     
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    To this day, I still think Starscream's 07 attack on the Raptor squadron is the best live action adaptation of how a seasoned Transformer should actually fight. That wasn't just a spectacular dog fight, it was guerrilla warfare in mid air.

    Now as far as Blackout goes, while we didn't actually see it used in action, there was something about the way he just rips his rotor off while stalking Prime that just felt visceral and medieval. Like we just saw how effortlessly Prime beheaded Bonecrusher yet Blackout, a con armed to the teeth with enough ranged firepower to level a base, still defaults to a freaking Decepticon chain saw as his first weapon against Prime. Sorry but that kind of confidence is the equivalent of hitman cracking his knuckles in excitement while approaching freaking Batman from behind.

    I can't wait for this MPM.
     
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    never thought of it that way before. That just made him all the more brutal

    Looks like he's about to scratch his arse here.
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