I didn't even see your post

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding there.

 

dragstrip's goth head is awesome. wish more characters had bleeding eyes like wolfwire!

 

It's fine, without context it does look like I'm being passive aggressive and such but I just was tossing my own thoughts into the void real quick.

Though actually responding to the second paragraph of your response post, you're right theres plenty of non-G1 characters that deserve new interpretations and shouldn't be forgotten...but when all we've had for the past couple of years is ever increasing G1 nostalgia, not just in generations but the showline and even the movies, and then they get brought into that aesthetic it feels less like that and more like Hasbro is saying they can only matter if they're G1 (Beast Wars being the very pleasant exception)

 

Jazz has the right chest for KO's layout

 

But the mold itself isn't good, which is my problem.

 

I get that, but I think any qc sideswipe would offer would be undone by an even more inaccurate knock out toy so.. hard decision.

Shoulda just been a new mold

 

I can get that. I really wish Transformers would deviate from G1 myself. It's becoming a detriment to possibly good toys. When we look at the new Elita-1, she isn't accurate but she looks great and I can't help but wonder what ER Arcee would have looked just doing the same thing as her. Blitzwing could have really used another way to conceal the cockpit and thank God someone nixed the tank barrel on the back of his head.

A lot of the coolest designs and characters came from deviating from G1. TFP Arcee is far superior aesthetically and personality wise to her G1 self although both suffer from not being able to transform into their alt modes. If they would do something more like that, I feel like they could feed more content into the franchise.

But I see this as acknowledging the other things for once. They're taking characters from outside their venerated G1/BW and saying something other than "REMEMBER THE 80s/90s?" by simply acting like Bulkhead and Knockout exist. They matter enough to be put in a toy line. They even get spots aside G1 and BW in RED. And blame me if you will because I hear there's Hasbro spies here (I doubt it) and I was asking for this kind of thing to bring them into the CHUG fold. Just don't really see how bringing them in instead of forgetting is acting like they don't matter in any capacity, even if they deviate because of art style stuff.

My biggest pet peeve is that these aren't just called the "G1" versions. Would make it seem a lot more like they're bringing in new versions of the characters and not forgetting about them. Bulkhead's designer says that was how he was going about designing Bulkhead, as the yet to be seen G1 version, but for some godforsaken reason the team didn't just call him that.

 

I don’t think the wide, forward-pointed chest of Jazz works for Knockout, but ER Sideswipe is too broad and dumpy for the lithe red Decepticon, too. New mold, for sure.

 

Jazz isnt ideal, for sure, but having the headlights on the chest and the actual legs rather than the bumper feet of the datsun is far better an option. Can't argue against thr car mode either, so good

 

Yeah, I guess I think of KO’s hood as pointed down vertically (which it is), but the fenders are still horizontal. It’s sort of a hybrid of the Sideswipe and Jazz chests. KO’s arms are more similar to the traditional Sideswipe design, though.

 

That is for sure. But I have to agree with you that a new car mold would have been appropriate, and the high repaint potential would have made sure it got sufficient use and gave some new options for carbot bodies and retools.

 

I don't like it when Optimus figures that are meant to be accurate to something have a Matrix before their actual fiction shows what their Matrix looks like, because what if the actual Matrix ends up looking completely different? The only immediate example that comes to mind is Optimus from Bumblebee, where the Yolopark model kit and just about all of the 3P figures of him have a Matrix we haven't seen him have before, and if he has a Matrix in ROTB, it almost certainly will look different and it'll retroactively make me dislike whatever now-inaccurate Matrix came with previous figures. I know for sure there are a few instances of this happening with other Primes too.

Like, it's not the figure's fault, obviously, but IMO it just should never have had a Matrix in the first place.

 

I’d prefer no Optimus had a Matrix, so I’m happy to chuck them in the “spare parts” bin and forget about them.

 

I didn't want to want this new Motomaster, but if it's compatible with CW I might want it.

Like they did with CW Blast Off, who I call Take Off.

 

Problem there is, it wouldn't eliminate it. Swindle, for example, based off the FMC XR311 Support Vehicle, would have been just over 4.3m\14' long in alt mode. The Space Shuttle Orbiter that Sky Lynx and Blastoff are based off is around 37m\122' long. Aircraft are just pretty big. The Kaman SH-2 Seasprite that Vortex was based off is 10m\36' long with its "nose and blades folded." Most of the fighter jets from the recent era are around 19m\63', with the F18 being a bit shorter at 17m\56'. Brawl, based on the German Leopard 1A3 (A Porsche product, lol) would have been only 9.5m\30ft, and that's including the very significant overhang of the gun barrel, which makes up about 40% of its overall length.

Onslaught was not based on a real vehicle, but a standard luxury cab semi-trailer with a flatbed is a fair comparison; the max width for a trailer in the U.S. and Canada is 2.5m\8.5' and the max length is officially 14.5m\48' but you can get away with another 1-2m. There is no overall length limit, but the tractor typically adds 3m\10', giving us Onslaught at around 63 feet. The current era, military equivalent of Onslaught would probably be something like the USMC LVSR, which is about 10m\36' long without a trailer and uses its own proprietary trailer and pallet system shared with the Army's equivalent vehicle, HEMMT. I don't recall seeing a larger vehicle that occupies that type of role in the US Military.

The combaticons' height\scale in robot and alt mode will only ever make sense with the power of our belief and our permission, haha.

 

I get it, and the Combaticons were my first combiner team so I have a soft spot for them. I just remember thinking as a kid "Wait, how do you get a shuttle out of WW2 aircraft?"  

 

I'm not a fan of the Legacy Prime designs but I suppose it's better seeing the characters get some representation rather than none at all. My concern is that I don't want these Legacy designs to become the go-to models for these characters. We already saw the Legacy Knock-Out used in the new Wreckers comic and it's very apparent want a bland design it is when Breakdown is in the same comic with his unaltered Prime design! Is Legacy Bulkhead going to be the default Bulkhead design now? All the roundness that made the character stand out now gone and instead he has the same blocky body shapes as every other character?

It feels like a double-edged sword because while it's nice to finally see other parts of the franchise recognized, they've neutered so much of what made the designs unique in the first place so they can fit alongside G1 characters.

 

Yeah, it would be unfortunate if these became the standard Knockout and Bulkhead. In Bulkhead's case it might not be too bad because cartoons have a tendency to take design cues but overall change the shapes and proportions (take G1 Optimus to Cybeverse) but Knockout is my least favorite of the Legacy looks. They could have easily kept his overall arm design from before and the chest is overly large. If they go with that as the base Knockout, it would be really disappointing.

Really the only one I would want to see as the default is Arcee. That's simply because the traditional G1 is prone to really poor transformations.