Unpopular toy opinions

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by NotRamjet97, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. lordcryotek

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    Now we now have better technology. It'd have to be done in CGI. If they can make a convincing Thanos, Avatar aliens, de-aged actors, etc. they can make a convincing robot with a fairly smooth humanoid face. I'm not saying glue Josh Brolin's face on Megatron and call it good though.
     
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    The problem with that is that Thanos, the Avatar aliens, and the de-aged actors still look organic. That would not work for alien robots made mostly out of metal because metal can't possibly move like human faces without any segmentation whatsoever.
     
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    I mean, yeah it can. With movie magic, anyways. Think mercury, like in Terminator 2, but as a face. But with detailing to make it look real. It would be a great way to give characters like Optimus more expressive eye movements.
     
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    Cybertronians have never had any mercury in their construction in any continuity. Their faces tend to be made of the same metal as the rest of their bodies and in live-action need to be made of lots of small pieces of solid Cybertronian alloy.
     
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    I think we're either having an error in communication or you have a very specific way that you feel live action transformers need to look. What I am picturing is essentially your typical CHUG silver/grey toy transformer face, but animated in CGI with detailing to make it look like it's realistic. Does not necessarily need to be segmented.
     
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    The adaption of animated media into live action just has so many loops to jump through.
     
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    Kind of like how they did it in Prime but more refined and improved (or at least I'd hope so since Prime was a decade ago).
     
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    Yeah, but with movie level "realism." If that makes any sense. I just want a face that can emote better on screen, and I feel like mapping a face (Gollum/Thanos style) is the best way to achieve that. Mostly for characters with humanoid faces like Megatron, Galvatron, Starscream, the carbots, etc.
     
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    I'm just very used to the Transformer designs starting with Transformers 2007 and ending with Transformers Dark of the Moon as I've watched those movies several times since my first viewing of Transformers 2007 in theater at the age of 15.
     
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    Ah, I see. And that's fine, different people want different things out of Transformers, usually based on what they grew up with. I grew up with G1, BW, the Unicron Trilogy etc. so the more human features are what I would like to see on my transformers.
     
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    I don't think smooth cartoon like faces would work for transformers in live action because there's a lot more you can get away with in a cartoon than in live action and they'd just end up looking uncanny and wrong, I mean that's the same reason why even the very G1 Bumblebee movie designs are more detailed and complex than the original cartoon...those designs would just look kinda ass if brought over 1 to 1 in live action.
    Take Optimus Prime for example, who's cartoon transformation is basically a truck standing up with the sides flipping out as arms and magically shifting into human proportions: that doesn't work in anything besides a cartoon and requires a ton more steps to get from that point A to B.
     
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    Moving metal worked for Oceanmaster's mask in Aquaman. We're talking about shapeshifting aliens, making some excuse about a mostly liquid face over a complex skeleton to handle expressions isn't that big a stretch given how much bending and creasing the rest of their bodies do for transformation
     
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    That was just the eye holes though, not an entire face. Plus it was still pretty weird looking.
     
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    Those are very much what I'd consider the golden age of Transformers figures. Creative and interesting designs translated into fun toys.
     
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    This?

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    No. It doesn't work. I would hate to see Transformers do this in live-action. Segmented live-action Transformer face supremacy.

    *in my opinion*
     
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    I could go for something like that, as long as it didn't look too human-like. I like the generally-humanoid G1 face style, but I appreciate the planar cheeks and square chins thrown in there, with maybe a seam or two.

    I don't like the "metal arthropod" look of Bayformers, which apparently take inspiration from photos such as this:
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    While some may go a little too far into looking weird, I do prefer for my alien robots to look like... alien robots. Not giant metal people with humanlike faces.

    Of course, that's just my preference, as I like humanoid just fine.
     
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    I never really felt the Decepticon designs were ever "alien" as most where just bipedal bots that where "very sharp" and would sometimes also have insect faces that made them look far to different aesthetically from the Autobots compared to how other continuities did the "each side has their own aesthetic gimmick".

    If anything this just shows why the Constructicons where still the best Bayverse Decepticon designs. You got humanoid and "insectoid" bots, both familiar and out there designs, and colours.
    And I may not like it as Devastator rather than it's own thing, but the combined mode was fun too see.
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but what on Earth is an “incest face”???
     
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