The Book of Boba Fett- Disney+ Miniseries

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  1. Chopperface

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    I’ve also heard rumblings that they wanted some sort of Mandalorian plot advancement since it was going to be two years after the end of Season 2 without Mandalorian content. Just strange. I think it would’ve been cool if they made 7 complete Boba Fett episodes, and the Mando episodes could be surprise drops. Wouldn’t that be something? The two best episodes of the season being dropped by complete surprise. That’s what I love about these Disney+ shows, often they come with a surprise. Probably would’ve resulted in 7 okay ish Boba episodes but at least it would’ve been consistent.

    I saw someone on YouTube say that they should’ve introduced Cad Bane much earlier, and have the majority of the flashbacks instead depict him training young Boba. Get some mileage out of the unused arcs from TCW, have Daniel Logan back, and actually flesh out their history so their final duel means more.

    That said, I still really enjoyed Boba joining the Tuskens at the end of episode 2. I’m glad we got it. They probably could’ve compressed the Boba flashbacks we got this season into one long episode, and be done with it. Keep the Tuskens alive or show them to have survived, so they can return to help in the finale.
     
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    I honestly think they could have combined Episode 5 and 6 (and parts of 7), restructured the story and timeframe a bit, and released them as a Disney Plus Mandalorian movie. They still could have had Mando team up with Boba for the BOBF final episode, just minus the Grogu stuff. Then release the Mando movie between BOBF and Kenobi.
     
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    Good idea. Other shows have done in between specials to tide fans over during the pandemic; Walking Dead did six bonus episodes, Euphoria did two specials. The bonus Mando movie could’ve dropped by complete surprise, and with how good they are, it would’ve really rocked the world the same way Grogu’s debut and Luke’s appearance did due to being total surprises.

    While I do utterly adore Grogu and his scenes with Mando in the finale, his cliffhanger ending where Luke asks him to choose his path would’ve been a great way to leave him for a year. Like I really would’ve preferred if that was the last we saw of Grogu until Mando Season 3.
     
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    Would changing the ending to Fett shooting the Pyke leader himself be more satisfactory than sending Fennec to do it like how Mando S2 ended like?
     
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    Personally, I'd would've been fine with Fennec killing the Pike leader but I would have had Bane be the one who was hired to kill the Tusken tribe.
     
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    Not to me simply because it's consistent with how Fennec is portrayed. She's a renowned assassin and has been shown in the series as a deadly killer. How she took out the group at the end was a nice demonstration of her competency and ruthlessness. I think having Fennec do the killing was more beneficial for highlighting her character in the finale as opposed to having Boba handle it because he was already given the spotlight earlier when fighting on top of the rancor as well as his showdown with Cad Bane.

    Agreed. Having Cad Bane be responsible for the tribe's demise would have put more acute emotional tension during the reveal as well as his showdown with Boba. People who aren't aware of Boba's background involving Cad Bane aren't going to particularly care when the exposition occurs regarding their past relationship as student/teacher because it's just a bit of dialogue. However, if Cad Bane was shown to be responsible for the tribe's murder, then anyone in the audience can get more on board with rooting for Boba against Cad Bane.
     
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    Personally, I would have had Fennec kill all the guards and the Mayor, then have the door open and Boba Fett blasts the Pyke leader. Give them both a role.

    I honestly think it could have worked with just Fennec, but something about that whole scene felt off. It felt kind of random and abrupt. Maybe it could have been interspliced with the city fight or something. I dunno, somehow it needed more oomph or weight.
     
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    Despite Book of Boba Fett having mixed reviews, was anyone happy that they saw another Rancor in action?
     
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    I was surprised how much the rancor got to do. With the way the Disney+ shows have stuck to practical effects (which is also a budget issue), I was really worried the rancor scenes were gonna be too stilted and lifeless like that speeder chase. But thankfully, they employed some decent CGI for him and he got to run around, climb stuff, etc. So it could've been a lot worse.
     
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    Personally I think it was Fennec covering her tracks as she plots to overthrow Boba....
     
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    I am sure that in a few months or at best a year, we will learn that this show was never meant to be a show, but a 3-episode story arc in Mandalorian S3, which Disney demanded the writers to expand into a whole show so they can milk more money out of the franchise. Preeeeettty suuuuree.

    It again goes to show that the Boba armor made by this fan looks better than the one from the show... It covers all his torso, for one...
    Love how Boba complains his Tusken family was killed off-screen so they had time to fit in Mando. :D 
    And yeah, sketch very nicely points out that Mando is basically what Boba Fett SHOULD have been in a show, and he took over his role as badass lone bounty hunter. Frankly, makes me wonder, why didn't Disney just do a show with him instead of creating a brand new character?

    She is so competent, she can literally phase through walls and shoot people in a tiny room from different angles without anyone seeing where the shots are coming from. :D  That scene would have worked in say, a huge throne room like Jabba's, but in an underground lair it was ludicrous.

    It was rather inconsistent how fast that beast was. I rewatched the Return of the Jedi scene, and it takes the old one a long time to even eat the Gamorrean guard, let alone to just walk up to Luke and then back to the door. Compared to that this one was moving so fast the droids constantly missed this giant target.
    Also people say this was a young Rancor, but to me it looked roughly the same size when Danny Trejo was sitting next to it or when it was eating the Pyke.

    Considering Mark Hamill still voices the Joker and Trickster in cartoons where these are not elderly characters, I feel he could have done Luke's voice just fine, maybe with some voice modification after-effects. It really felt weird they went this route with Luke's voice. EFAP talks about how lifeless the inflections at the end of sentences were because the software does not "understand" how to really emote.
     
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    Robo-Luke is such a baffling thing. Mark Hamill's acting in TLJ was the one thing everyone agreed was a good thing, TRoS’ Undead Leia creeped everyone out, and they've done very little to disguise the fact that Tem is like twice as old as his character's supposed to be. So logically you'd think they'd have Mark at least do the voice acting -- y'know, a thing he's been doing for decades now to great acclaim – but no? Which highlights the eeriness of this tech since it renders actual actors as disposable.
     
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    Soon these "digital actors" will sound just like this:
     
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    I assume they're testing the tech particularly for scenes where it doesn't require much vocal range. But I think scenes where Luke is yelling or in a more heightened emotional state would definitely put that to the test. What I would like to know is if they would be able to de-age the voice if Hamill actually played him. I mean, if the whole voice itself can be synthesized surely they could adjust one that has already been recorded?
     
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    I think this Hello Greedo video sums up my overall thoughts on the series; A disjointed, unfocused narrative that resulted in an okay, but would be forgettable series in comparison to the 2 seasons of The Mandalorian.
     
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    Because A) Hamill's not going to live forever and B) they've already lost Fisher. If they test this stuff out now, when the only reaction is "Why didn't they just have him record it?" the audience will be less grossed out by the ghoulishness of an entirely brand-new CG Luke & Leia scene in 2040 that finally fills in the last five minutes of undocumented time between A New Hope and Empire.
     
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    Did TROS Leia creep people out? I know people weren’t hot about Rogue One Tarkin and Leia. They didn’t really use CGI on her to the extent they’re doing for Luke and Tarkin, they just used pre-existing footage.

    I agree, he should do the voice acting and they could use technology to pitch up his voice. He voiced OT Luke back in Forces of Destiny, and while he sounded different, it sounded like him nonetheless. I bet if they pitched it up on top of what Hamill can surely already do being such a talent, they could get it right. They’re gonna need it if they’re really going to do Heir to the Empire or something needing OT Luke in a more demanding role.
     
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    I think I might've gotten wires crossed, oops. RO Leia was uncanny valley, IIRC with TRoS Leia it was a bit too obvious they had to make do with footage entirely unrelated to TroS.
     
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    She creeped me out. Not only was the uncanny valley strong, but the conversations were so obviously written around the things they had footage of her saying and none of those conversations felt natural. It really highlighted that we were watching deleted scenes of a dead woman. For me, at least.
     
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    I agree on both counts that she didn’t feel natural, but not necessarily in an uncanny valley way. But she’d been dead for three years, it’s just about impossible to watch that without knowing that and knowing what you’re watching is fake. I guess it is a kind of uncanny valley effect, but that’s fair, I didn’t feel creeped out by it. I just kinda smiled and nodded since they didn’t really have a choice since they didn’t want to have her already dead. Life sucks.