If you're talking about the G1 cartoon, probably a lot fewer desert environments.

 

What about the notion, of accent creating story?

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here? Yes, I suppose accents can add or change story elements, but that's voice casting/dialogue, as far as I can tell it doesn't really pertain to art. Maybe if a character sounds a certain way he or she would be drawn in a manner to somehow reflect that, but in general the main difference I could see in the artwork if the story were set in the UK would be that it would look a lot less like the American southwest than most of the episodes of the Sunbow cartoon looked.

 

Well, if they were Scottish:

What If 80s Cartoons Were Scottish? | Short Stuff - YouTube

 

Thank you, for your response.
First, you seem to be unintentionally fluctuating, in terms of the notion of accent creating story. "but that's voice casting/dialogue, as far as I can tell it doesn't really pertain to art" is the antithesis of the proposed argument, about accent indeed creating story, however, you then go on to say that "Maybe if a character sounds a certain way he or she would be drawn in a manner to somehow reflect that" - by this, you appear to be saying that story can be influenced by accent, insofar as there being a direct correlation.


I raise the issue, of accent creating story, despite having another thread about such topic, because it is seemingly a pillar of the geography question. Would you concur with this - that the concern of accent creating story is a hallmark of art's geography identity?

 

Uuuhhhh, I just saw the topic header and replied to that. All this accent creating story stuff must have been in pages 1 and 2, which I didn't read. Sorry.

 

What is your opinion, of the concept, that accent creates story, specifically in regards to the dimension that the relationship between accent and story oversees the writers?

 

Honestly, haven't put all that much thought into it. I suppose depending on how it's handled, or the accent in question, it could be little to no impact or a major impact. I guess an easy example to look to is 'The Boys', and trying to imagine Billy Butcher without his thick English accent. For him, it's a defining trait, it makes what he has to say all the more interesting in part because it does sound different to the other characters, and also because he uses phrases and terminology that's very unfamiliar to those he's speaking to as well as an American audience. Hell, I'm guessing many in the UK are unfamiliar with much of what he has to say. That, and the English accent allows him to say 'cunt' with a lot more immunity than someone west of the pond would be allowed - it's like just a noun in the UK.

Ultimately it's kind of on the writer and the situation as to how much an accent alone can dictate what happens in a story. There's always the Boomhauer gag where an accent is so thick nobody knows what they're saying, but that needs to be used sparingly or it gets old quick. Beyond that, hell, I don't know. I just dropped in to point out the main G1 landscape theme wouldn't work for Britain.

 

I haven't watched The Boys. But it sounds like a good example, of the logistics of the issue. Philosophically, I think that ideas are the only thing that's free of the paradigm of accents. Ideas are the only thing to have control over accents, and then once the ideas have been used, the writers have no control over the accent creating the story.

The using up of ideas is the sequence before sequence kicks back

 

I want to know where you live that you think there is a single American accent, that's what I make of it.

I have lived in West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, and California.

I have visited New York, Georgia, and Texas.

I went to school with people from New Jersey.

I know people from Wisconsin.

There are at least 20 American accents.

 

An articulated lorry.

 

Is it more accurate to say, that there are 20 dialects of American accent?

 

That's not quite accurate. A dialect is a derivative form of a language, while an accent is the way in which the words are pronounced. Because of this, accents don't have dialects. Languages have dialects, to which certain accents correspond. Accordingly, there are multiple American dialects, which each may have their own accent, but not multiple dialects of the American accent. There is no such monolithic entity as " THE American accent", just as there is no such thing as "THE European accent", etc.

 

Deceptichavs

 

Orion Pax worked on the docks, as such I think that Optimus Prime came from either Glasgow or Liverpool (among others), but given the most successful British Football Managers generally hail from Scotland, I going to say that Optimus would have a Glasgow accent.

Sorry for taking this thread too seriously, but guv'nor seem a really cockney word and a do not really see Starscream coming from the east end of London. I more like see Starscream as being from a traditionally wealthier area of England. If you have ever have watched The Young Ones (the first episode is really funny), I think Starscream reminds me of Rick from the Young Ones (played by Rik Mayall). Red Dwarf (the first episode is ironically called The End) is a classic, UK comedy, and Starscream also reminds me of the character Arnold Judas Rimmer (played by Chris Barrie).

I could definitely see the other seekers as being cockneys.

 

OHHH but I have, I stand by what I said lol

 

Can it therefore be construed, that there's no such thing as Americanism, or Britishness, or Europeanism?

 

No it can't. These "isms" comprise more than just the spoken language. While idioms and such may either be based upon one's region of the world, political ideologies and societal values are also part of these isms. Thus concluding that there's no such thing as Americanism/Britishness/Europeanism from @Furnace comment about dialect vs accent in America doesn't work.

 

If there's a co-ordination of exclusivity at play, in the G1 series, regarding the use of accents, just as there was in the TV show Lost, can that be taken to mean that the source of such co-ordination of exclusivity is non-existent, namely in this case Americanism?

 

No