What do you think should be the way transformers are born?

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Tfcollector97, Jan 17, 2022.

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What do you thing should be the way transformers are born

This poll will close on Jan 17, 2032 at 8:13 AM.
  1. Hot spots

    29.1%
  2. Allspark/well of allsparks

    34.2%
  3. Construction

    46.8%
  4. Other

    30.4%
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  1. Tfcollector97

    Tfcollector97 tfsomegaguy

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    I Like idw’s approach better it just seems that a population of billions would have more than one birth place.
     
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  2. trokanmariel33

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    In War Dawn, when the Aerial bots go back in time, the theme of Optimus Prime's origin makes a strong case for construction, because of the theme encompassing the spirituality of no cause. No cause, with respect to Orion Pax's inherent femininity being tied to the Terminator franchise's T-800 resurrection spirituality.

    Of course, there is no surface connection, between Terminator and Transformers, due to the former's relevance arriving after the latter, but, there is the potential for under the surface connection.

    In Terminator 2 and 3, especially 3, there is the growth from damage suffered by the T-800, which is if not thematically then at least spiritually connected to Orion Pax's disposition in War Dawn. Only, in Pax's case, the spirituality is a literal manifestation.
     
  3. Ikkstakk

    Ikkstakk Well-Known Member

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    Step 1: Build the robot.
    Step 2: Take the robot to Vector Sigma.
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Living robot.
     
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  4. peteynorth

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    I prefer the idea of hotspots, but I think IDW got a bit too convoluted when they went with snowflakes and all that other stuff. Basically a naturally occurring process of spark creation, a spark 'fertilizes' viable sentio metallico, and a protoform emerges and develops over time. They can have symbolic or assisting processes beyond that, and test tube scenarios like constructed cold are definitely good story enhancers, but it has to be a method so that the first generations could be born without pre-existing TF's needing to be there to bring them into the world. I prefer this sort of thing to the idea of them being constructed. It also allows for natural variation, so that you can have the 'Jim Thorpe' type individuals (point one percenters, outliers) and it's not a case of Optimus, Megatron, Grimlock, etc being stronger because they had better blueprints, they're just unbelievably gifted athletes which can't be replicated in the workshop. Yes, obviously constructed enhancements are part of the mythos, but it's not like 10 hours on the operating table is going to make Bumblebee the toughest guy on the battlefield.

    And more natural explanations are always better than the reliance on mystical elements that the Well of Allsparks or to a lesser extent, Vector Sigma, exemplifies. My preference is that these be naturally occurring, living beings. Thus far, hot spots does the best job of getting them there.
     
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    I have my own weird headcanon here. Titans are the queen bees/ factories of their race. They consume raw material and turn it into protoform pods. These pods are eventually sparked to life by an adult Cybertronian who then acts as their Mentor.
     
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    Well that might be one of the more unique ideas I’ve read in a while
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, they should be mass-produced in vast factories underneath the surface of Cybertron.
     
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    My whole True Origins is about this very thing.

    I want to give a proper context to their existence, their personalities, abilities, roles, capacity, to explain everything in a logical way.

    So "other".
     
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  9. CyberstormSM

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    I like the hotspot concept from IDW a lot, but I'm open to other interpretations.

    One thing that I do find important is the idea of them being born all across Cybertron. The way IDW2 and Aligned seemed to handle it (with the Pyramid and Well of AllSparks respectively), everyone was just "born" in the same place, and then they all just kinda spread across the planet. I dunno, I'm not super keen on that idea, personally--I'd rather have Transformers being forged all throughout Cybertron.
     
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    I'm in favor of the Creation Matrix concept. Someone builds a robot body, and the current Prime ensparks it with the Matrix.
     
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  11. Beastwarsfan95

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    Perhaps they reproduce like the Huragok from Halo: using available components to literally build a new individual, adding their experience and knowledge to the ‘newborn’. The more Huragok who contribute, the smarter the resulting ‘offspring’ will be. The Huragok are not actually biological creatures but living machines.
     
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    The idea of hotspots from IDW, which utilizes Vector Sigma but acknowledges that such a species that reproduces in a non-sexual manner would need several places of birth. I also like Constructed Cold, which acknowledges that they're robots.
     
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    I was citing the mind - just referring to what my psychology was consisting of. Overall, my interpretation of Prime's origin is that it was the logic of yin/yang ironically belonging to Prime, but not to Megatron
     
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    Either through Hot Spots or through self Budding somehow. The former makes them, in my eyes, feel more 'connected' to Cybertron in that way and as for the latter...well it would be interesting to know what types of
    conditions would make a Cybertronian self bud and for how many times during their life.
     
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    Transformers creation is best left unexplained aside from specific scenarios.

    Any broad-strokes explanation inevitably disappoints some fans and more often than not doesn't make sense. My personal preference is construction and/or protoforms, but it's not really a question I ever feel satisfied by the answers given.
     
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    All of them. The Allspark/Well of All Sparks is the Transformer version of the primordial goo we came from, it can create the basic forms of life that can become a Cybertronian, and could induce life in otherwise lifeless electronics and machinery (Think the 2007 Movie and Animated). When there was a stable population on Cybertron, they engineered Hot Spots which would serve to create the bulk of the Cybertronian population. When those stopped producing Cybertronians, Cold Construction became the norm.
     
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    i like how idw2 did it. they pop out of cybertron as sparks, raw materials from the planet are made into new metal for the baby robot, and when they die they merge back into cybertron to once again become part of the planet. it's a little complicated, but it's a neat little circle of life.
     
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    I went with other. I liked how the G1 cartoon showed various ways of Transformers being built and given personalities, so I'm on the side of there being no one way to bring these machines to life.
     
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    They should be brought by the robo-stork! Which would be an Airrazor remold, naturally,
     
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