Rise of the beasts set photos, leaks, and interviews thread

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  1. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    That's still asking a lot of Paramount who routinely demonstrated the inability to manage even what you're describing under normal conditions.
     
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    *Michael Bay
     
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  3. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    If there's one thing I've learned as I've grown older over the past two decades and looked at the whole of what goes into making a film...Michael Bay alone is not the sole cause of why the Transformers films as a whole generally are not well made movies. Likewise, Travis Knight did much to make Bumblebee good, but at the same time it largely would have been the same movie we got had it not had as much of the Bayverse stripped out of it as possible, since the reshoots couldn't have possibly covered the entirety of the film - not to mention how everyone keeps mentioning Michael Bay was a producer on Bumblebee so that actually kind of undermines any argument that it the only problem that needed solving was Michael Bay's involvement. Indeed, he is still involved as a producer with ROTB so he's not even gone.

    It's why I'm convinced Lorenzo is the real problem. Since the first film, he's been heavily involved with a lot of shit, far more than I would expect of even an Executive Producer given he also loves running his mouth off with PR pieces like he's a wrestling promoter or something. And this is a guy who is basically on record praising himself for deviating from the source material when it's been increasingly proven time and again as of late that sticking to the source material as much as possible actually does better AND was going on about how Bumblebee was not a reboot well after Hasbro said it was. He's not somebody I would think rational people would want to keep on attached to a toy-based franchise unless there's more going on, like he's tied to the money funding these things. Though admittedly, ever since ROTB's delay got announced he's been uncharacteristically silent when I would think this would be prime time for him trying to keep the hype alive. Hasbro is releasing the toys after all.
     
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    I’ve never seen those descriptions before. Do you have more descriptions of the characters from the same source?
     
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    Since the toyline is getting released earlier could the movie get released earlier?
     
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    I doubt it. This is just more of a we can't hold onto these since they'd cost more and we got nothing to fill out the rest of the year (replacing CV) so they're putting them out. That being said I'd love it but I doubt it.
     
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    Oh I agree that it’s probably not the case, but I am still very curious as to which characters will be focused on since we know pretty much nothing outside of names, small paragraph bios, and vague design descriptions.

    In the Bay films it was like Russian Roulette with screentime and characterization. Some characters either got a ton of attention like the Twins or Bumblebee, sat somewhere in a middle ground where they assisted in action sequences and sometimes said something cool (Sideswipe, Que, Dino, Drift, literally every secondary Autobot character), or did nothing at all like Berserker or poor last-minute Jolt. I still remember how we got a shitton of Berserker toys for him to literally be relegated to a 10 second one-off joke, and it was hilarious (even moreso when you realize he almost was RotF Overload).

    So I do wwonder how that will tie into characters for RotB. Like, what if Crescent is an extremely prominent character? Could Battletrap actually be a Duo-con (highly doubtful but still)? For all we know, Rhinox is in the background of one scene and is never seen again. Will Nightbird be a compelling character or will her supposed faction-flipping backstory be completely ignored in the film like Drift? That isn’t even mentioning the other potential characters that could be in it that we don’t know about. Could some of the ones we know about have as much as 5 seconds of screen-time in a scene akin to the Cybertron scenes from Bumblebee? There’s a shitton of questions that I and I’m sure many others have.

    So, even if it might end up being mismanaged and weirdly skewed in focus like most of the other films, I’m still curious either way about how it may be handled and how prominent each TF will be, because at the end of the day some are bound to get the short end of the stick regardless of if that small role is done well or not.
     
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    If I had to guess rank screentime for each factions characters it would be:
    Autobots
    Prime - obviously
    Mirage - kid appeal character and they said he would replace Bee for the film as that
    Bee - kid appeal character and also just popular and well know - Hasbro's bady
    Arcee
    Wheeljack
    - I could see two interchangeable

    Maximals
    Primal - leader
    Cheetor - kid appeal 2nd yellow character
    Airrazor
    Rhinox
    Cresent - if he/she is in the film.
    Terrorcons
    Scourge - the most, also main villain and leader.
    Nightbird
    Battletrap
    And then any other that we haven't seen if there are more


    Then overall these characters will get the most: Prime, Mirage, Bee, Scourge, Primal, Cheetor, and Nightbird.
    BUT I hope they all get a moment to shine but I think these will have the most.




    Also off topic could with then putting out the toys this year mean they could show concept art with the reveals since were gonna know what they look like
     
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    I kinda find it odd how the Terrorcons only have three bots in their ranks, while the maximals and Autobots outnumber them. I’m assuming what they lack in numbers they make up for in power. I mean the Terrorcons should be excellent warriors.
     
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    Could be or maybe they're very powerful (thanks to they're boss) and they have more just we haven't seen them yet cause they're alt mode are entirely CGI. Cause I just get this feeling they have at the very least 1 flier (or even 2 but at least 1).

    Also, If they reused Blitzwings CGI model with changes like more rust, gun hand, missing an eye,etc. to match the Terrorcons as a seeker I wouldn't be mad.
     
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    We already know Scourge has a lot of battle experience. So I’d imagine even Optimus would have a hard time fighting him alone.
     
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    Yeah, and if indeed Scourge is reformatted Prime they it will be even harder since Scourge would know how Prime fights.
     
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    I just want a good villain, I don’t care if his origin is Optimus or not, or if his off-screen body count is 500 or 5, just have him be a good villain in the moment as well to raise the stakes.
     
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    terrorcons gonna get the brawl treatment and have a bunch of smaller good guys just gang on them.


    I really hope they give the bad guys something to do, you dont need them to be classic nostalgia bait, bbb movie pair were just some new idiots but they worked, they didn't need to be some classic characters quoting iconic lines, (wich makes me angry because had they given them personalities from the start) we could have gotten some great weird shit, imagine shatter and dropkick dialogue but its something like bonecrusher and brawl in 2007 instantly more memorable
     
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    Maybe if they don't have other Terrorcons that are entirely CGI alt mode and robot mode. Cause I feel like they're could be a 4th one that is a flier - Jet, Helicopter.
    I think/hope they will have something to do since they will most likely be following or tracking down the Autobots as they go to Peru.
     
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    Ok I keep hearing some shit that nightbirds design may have leaked idk if this is just cap and some fake shit or if it actually did get leaked. I know this youtuber isn't known for having any info but the firebrothers said that potentially her design got leaked. Can anyone confirm this
     
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    We've already gotten the promotional images of all the Terrorcon vehicles and the Autobots. Plus, given the amount of money being thrown at this that they could just casually haul all that stuff to Peru, the idea there's some characters not even revealed and will be totally CGI is absurd. I mean, drone technology has become cheap enough that it wouldn't have cost them much of anything to have drones flying around to act as focus points, both for actors to look at as well as reference points for the animators.

    I mean, FFS they have four Mirage cars entirely for the multiple hologram trick, if money was a problem they could have CGI'd that too.
     
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    As far as I know it didn't only just fan art and this is fan art based on the concept art shown. ROTB Nightbird Concept Art.png
    That's fair I was just saying hypothetically or what if.
     
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    Sounds like bullshit aside from the vague fan art when have of them that’s based on the actual design.
     
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