It is a real shame that rare Replay sells you two versions of the games (say digitially) and one is the one linked to the rare replay and the other is astand alone instance.

The strange thing is you can install all the stand alone instances - that it swears are XBox 360 games but if you then sign in on the same account on the XBox 360 and check those games on the store online or on the console it says you don't own them.

So my XBox Series X thinks I do own them - but I kinda think it's weird they listed them like that - as it is actually the Xbox One version of an XBox 360 game I own instead - as they are grouped with the XBox One titles not with the XBox 360 ones.

So If I want to play the games I already seem to own - I have to buy them twice.

I do wonder what happens if you have game pass and then look at the xbox 360 titles does it say they are not included. it's the same situation with the Dead Rising game on gold -it's says "Xbox 360" but it isn't it's the XBox One version of the XBox 360 game as the normal XBox 360 instance isn't show up as gold download - where as King Of Fighters the other week did and that was an actual XBox 30 title in the proper sense. & the other original XBox game on gold this month also works on both too - yet Dead Rising doesn't.

So why are they using a banner saying it's a 360 game when it isn't ? Kinda weird that.

But I'm often confused by the console dashboard - the way it's displays the home page seems to have mysteriously changed overnight and XBox One Far Cry 5 keeps disappearing from my home link too - despite me pressing everything I can think off to keep it there.

- How do you make 'quick resume' stick anyway on a series X/S Console ?
I'm guess it's a lost less confusing to navigate for people already used to the similar dash from the XBox One.

To be honest it doesn't make sense to sell exclusives (or games that don't also work on the XBox One) unless they are based on a very high end PC port - though when they charge you twice it is a little scummy - I found it confusing enough when there was different XBox 360 & XBox One versins of a game so having the default remain XBox One and then having a "New Console" one on top makes some sense - when they are effectively making games for 4 consoles.

I think they might want to at least consider a transition period of XBox One X & New consoles and making them not work on the older XBox One before leaving the previous gen entirely as the XBox One X & the XBox Series S are not that different performance wise so there isn't really a reason to make a game that works on the "Series S" than doesn't also work on the "XBox One X" too.

If the Series S didn't exist it would be a whole other issue, but I can't see an issue with a game being made sans Raytracing and at under 1440p mode to work on previous gen machine or target the previous gen and then add improvements on top (much like one does with Pc anyway) Making and XBox Box Series X game is more or less like making a modest Graphic card PC version of the game anyway. & the older machines is a bit like allowing your game to still run on a laptop (which I actually kinda handy to do anyway) - so who knows maybe having to consider legacy tech some of the time is a good thing and might benefit the PC crowd 'on the move' too.

 

No.. The "Digital" versions your talking about, at least the way I'm reading it, are the gamepass versions of the game. 360 has no way to verify that you have Gamepass. Otherwise when you "buy them" on the Xbox.. they'll be the 360 versions.

 

I was just amused that when I bought Fallout 4 as a digital download after already installing it from disc it just installed it twice, so if I did the same thing with rear replay I could in theory have one of the distinct games (say Banjo Tooie) listed 5 times on the dashboard if it does the same thing with that game and if I also bought the actual 360 version too.

Speaking of Rare Replay - I've not checked yet - does Nuts & Bolts come with the DLC on the rare replay version - as I already bought the DLC on the 360 version so I don't know if it would show up as having it or not - as I already bought it ?

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Has Microsoft said anything about if they are still working on older titles back compatability or not - or are they only working on XBox One games now - as it seemed to me they'd want some of those older titles to work on the modern machines so they can throw them up on Gamepass or sell them to you digitially. I often find an older game I wish I didn't have to drag out an older machine to play.
For example I've been looking for where I missplaced some of my older consoles leads as I wanted to replay Wallace & Gromit Project Zoo.

Though I notice the XBox Series consoles tool kit includes a Playstation emulator - so perhaps some more games that never even got released on Xbox format can get a re-issue on that format for the 1st time using that pathway.. Kinda like has happend a bit with the odd thing from Sega Saturn or Dreamcast.

But the game I always complain about the most not seeming to work is Project Gotham Racing series - I wonder if it's a licensing issue - I can't see how it would be to make it work from disc only though. But I am mostly just missing the DLC though since they didn't re-release them on disc with the DLC included. I guess a PC emulator is an option perhaps.

But I think regardless more older titles being added to backwards compatability is something I would welcome - even more so if they do something especially unusual like get some original xbox games to work that won't even run on 360 at all.

Microsoft seem conserned about their lack of exclusives - well they had a few OLD games that were exclusives surely they'd not hurt getting them working if they can.

 

They had to stop to handle the migration to XBS and there won't be any more made available on XBO, but they also said they were intending to carry on with XBS once things got back to normal.

Most of the work for older games now is legal rather then technical. The OG and 360 BC involves wrapping the games rather then running them in their original form, which counts as a new release and hence involves digging up the original paper contracts and coming to a new agreement with the publisher.

 

I had a thought in the back of my mind that it might be a situation like the Sony (Playstation) VITA - a modern console could easily run any VITA & PSP game under emulation - but they decided not too - which is understandable due to incompatable media format (Namely UMD discs/downloads).

Sony are not the sort of just give you an emulator (they might sell you one) but even if you have said vita games on your download history - They are not exactly known for their generousity to give you new access to them that way.

So I have to wonder if what Microsoft might do is make those games they have from now on Not actually free Backwards compatability (even though it's a huge selling point during the year or two before they actually get any exclusives to sell the machines) - Not to mention the rather foolish bind they put themselves in with the spec of the XBox Series S acting as a potential break on maxium quality of Series X games... even more so if they continue trying to shoehorn Xbox One games out for a while longer and simply upscaling them - and they seem to be planning to do just that.

Though didn't they suggest that Halo Infinate isn't getting an XBox One version after all ? (which means they are still going to have to do there best to get it run on the similarly speced Series S too - which means they are really going to have to draw heavily on the SSD I suspect.

I would be a bit dispointed though if they no longer gave you access on the new machine to the games you already own- they could at the very least tell people they are going to do that so people know to not dispose of their older consoles quite so quickly as some might.

I suspect a lot of these things will show up on Gamepass though.

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Speaking of Gamepass though I am shocked how quickly some games are being pulled off the service - Final Fantasy 15 for example. Not to mention it was on sale not that long ago and I nearly bought it - if I'd know it was only up for a short time i'd have bought the darn thing - It's especially weird to pull it when they are supposed to be adding some of the other FF games to the Backward Compatability "Enchanced programme" too, at the very least it seems like poor timing to me.

I just think as a general rule even if they rivals plan to be not so nice to their consumers long term they can at least pretend to be nice while they are trying to compete for market share. As bad PR like the say the way the Control Series S/X versions is being handled - isn't a good look I feel especially when the Witcher III is getting the same treatment and that is completely free to people who already bought the game on XBox One before. Though to be honest I'm kinda confused why CDPR are even making it in the 1st place. (do they think they will sell more DLC or something - or did they just think - "might as well" as they already had an enhanced PC version to base it on?).

I wonder which way Bethesda will jump - stick with what they have, give you a back compatiblity version or try to sell you things all over again ? I can see something like Skyrim getting yet another version - as that seems tobe the thing with Skyrim and to be honest if they updated the terrain and facial textures I think people would buy it again just for that - as it does look really kinda creeky and old fashioned at the moment as it is & it is a game people still have an interest in anyway.

 

Microsoft has discontinued all Xbox One consoles

 

And Sony is making more Ps4s.

 

Probably because Microsoft is profiting off the Xbox Series S, which is easier to find than the Xbox Series X and PS5.

 

Just bought my second S

 

**Apologies for reviving an old thread lol

So just wondering for anyone who owns an XB ONE,but I wanted to know since it's backwards compatible for 360 games,will I have to download the game/data into the HDD (like how it is nowadays) if I have the physical disc or can I play straight off the 360 disc??

Also does the Xbox one S have the backwards compatible like the original system??

Anyways long story short I came across all my old 360 games in storage and was looking for a 360 but then recall the Xbox one being backwards compatible and TBH buying a used or refurbished 360 is a gamble especially in 2022 so was wondering about the Xbox One.

Any information would be greatly appreciated and before anyone says "Get a Series 1 or PS5!" I'm A-O-K and on many occasions I could've gotten either but passed as I'm not that diehard gamer anymore.
Thx!

 

I believe the Xbox One can play backwards compatible games (not all are backwards compatible) straight from the disk (could be mistaken), though isn't the Xbox One S a digital only console? If so, that one can't play the discs.

 

Thx for responding! But I believe the Xbox one S is basically the Slim version of the system. I know the newer Series 1s consoles have no disc drive and digital only.
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But thanks for confirming this for me,much appreciated  I seriously was dreading finding a 360,I didn't want the 360 RROD PTSD again lol. IIRC I went through 4 360's back then  

 

Ouch. I was fortunate enough to never get a RROD, but I did go through several dud PS2s back when they were out.

 

The worst $hit regarding my RROD is that Microsoft kept replacing it with the original white 360 and @ the time I had the Green Special edition Halo 3 console which hurt! They worked something with me and I ended up with an Elite but within a year had the dreaded RROD. I remember getting frustrated and asked for a newer 360 slim or the last gen 360 but kept getting the original white 360 lol

 

That sounds like a massive headache. I don't even think I've turned my Xbox One on in like a year, mostly just use Game Pass Cloud these days if I want to play Xbox, but the 360 definitely had some gems