Legacy Dragstrip Review

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Nova Maximus, Jan 10, 2022.

  1. Joburg Guy

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    I'm all in for Menasor, The CW style combiners were fun at the time but I'm all for something different as well. Masquerade/Clip-on/Armour-up, whatever it is I'm sure that it'll be interesting at the very least and hopefully a stable, well articulated combiner come the finish.

    Prepared to eat crow though, in which case we just enjoy individual figures.
     
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    Huh.

    I don't mind the splitting-in-half limb design or the hollow head, but those brown-y-gold paint apps look a bit crap and I actually really liked his toy colours.
    I hope they do a toy-colours/head-sculpt version for these guys too.
     
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  3. Napalm

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    Damned if you do, damned if you don't it seems, from comments across the hellscape.

    What do people actually want these days?

    G1 Menasor is a difficult design to translate to plastic. The Commander Class Motormaster is rumoured to have the cab and half the trailer form Motormaster and Menasor's torso, with the remaining half utilising further combining components. This is speculative right now, but Drag Strip splitting in this way supports that rumour.

    Unlicensed transforming robots have shown at least three times now that taking advantage of the trailers mass as a separate part is the best way to deliver a (relatively, as much as can be) well scaled, well proportioned G1 styled Menasor. A G1 styled Menasor is what folk seem to be hankering after in the main line following the disappointment of the Combiner Wars version.

    So, what do people actually want? The moon on a stick?
     
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    While I likely won't be buying this set of Stunticons, I am torn on the splitting thing for one specific reason: regardless of its impact on the combiner, it does admittedly have some fun potential as a play feature for photos and displays. Can definitely see someone, say, taking a photo when Haslab Victory Saber comes out of him cutting Drag Strip's car mode in half.
     
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    I think some people want a more toy based menasor, or at the very least, one not sunbow inspired, because being honest, none of the combiners really looked great in the cartoon, but Menasor was pretty consistently the worst one, even more so when they forgot to at least split the cars in half so there was at least a semblance of them forming the arms instead of just sitting on top of grey blocks. But, honestly I feel like those expectations were wildly mismatched considering the current line
     
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    Follow that design (my fave, by the way) and we'd wind up with a teeny tiny Motormaster that the scale police would never shut up about.

    I suppose you could take the FansProject/Transformission engineering route - that is to say heavy partsforming utilising individual trailer parts to create the gestalt mass - hell, based on the Motormaster design rumours they may well be doing so. That'll further incur the wrath of the partsforming police, though the more I think about it, the more I think this might just be the way they go.

    Poor Menasor. Unloved and alone.
     
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    The urge to buy CW Menasor has never been stronger so I can experience how godawful it is
     
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    I am wondering why the head is empty... maybe this is a prototype yet, or you can put a small driver in there? One strange thing is, I see no combiner mechanism on this...
     
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    I'd like to go back in time and cancel Menasor, since his design just doesn't work from the outset. Sports cars have an incredibly thin profile, and the ability to make them turn in something resembling a beefy limb just didn't exist for Transformers in the mid 80's, if it even exists now. But at the same time, the Sunbow look is really dumb, it just looks like Motormaster grew 3 sizes and taped the other Stunticons to his limbs. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Remember, this is what the original G1 toy looks like:
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    My favourite son.
     
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    The only thing that was uniquely bad about CW Menasor was Motormaster. If they had designed a Motormaster that better resembled the G1 toy, the combiner itself would be far better. Black Mamba proved that with the excellent prototype they made before they got shut down.
     
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    People like different things, so it's not really feasible to make everyone happy all in one go.

    I'm on a hiatus from the Generations line until we get past the current phase of G1 cartoon accuracy. I'm sure there are many others who are lapping it up.
     
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    I'm sure they'll be back in some form or other now there's fresh blood in the water.
     
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    While some people would likely be bothered by the vehicle scale, I think far more would be elated to get a G1 style Menasor that actually works. Nobody complains about the Combaticons' scale issues when, in reality, Bruticus should look like this:
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    I'm kind of hoping this isn't indicative of the rest of the limb bots, I could care less about the whole "to split or not to split" debate as long as it's structurally sound and poses good, but I do take issue with stuff like the leg, arms and head gap, and the weird gaps at the 90° bend on the shoulders. Still means the vehicle mode turns out alright and who knows, I might still have fun with it, and I imagine there has to be some sort of upgrade kit for these guys that hopefully fixes a lot of the gap issues on him
     
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    Yeah, totally. That's why I'm hoping they take the FPJ/TFM engineering route and give us a Motormaster that utilises parts of the trailer in his own transformation and the remaining components to bulk out Menasor. Forgot all about that Black Mamba take, did that follow a similar path or was it an all in one transformation?
     
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    It was all in one, like the original Motormaster. Plus, it was fully Combiner Wars compatible!
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    The only thing I really don't like on Dragstrip are those stupid huge shoulder pads! What a stupid thing to do to an otherwise good looking figure.
     
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    That was the original date for the release of wave 1, yes. I expect Hasbro is still hoping for it to happen, but they've sensibly given a much later date to compensate for supply disruptions. Such as thousands of Transformers toys sitting in US ports for the last month or so.

    It wouldn't kill Hasbro, no, but it would kill the design of this toy.

    Those pegs extruded from the bodywork are not a random or spiteful choice on the part of the designers. They are the only functional option given the thickness (or rather thinness) of the plastic from which they extend. Holes in that plastic would receive pegs from wheels, which would lead to two things - wheels flopping around quite poorly (because the port into which they plugged would be far too short to stabilise them), and the plastic around the holes fracturing fairly quickly.

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    And then if you look at where those parts end up in the alt-mode, there simply isn't any room for the ends of pegs to stick through those panels.
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    Nice. Not as small as I thought it might be. Cheers for that, though I'll lay off continuing the unlicensed talk now for fear of kicking the hornets nest.
     
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