Bumblebee Voice.

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  1. figsdad

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    Cast back 1st film. Ratchet said prime im still working on him as he fires some lazer towards bee..

    The Myth is Megatron rips out Bee Vocal Processor. while on Cybertron. End of the Film he talk for like 6 sec.. Permission to speak Sir. I like to stay with the Boy.

    The Last Knight .. Day trader gives Cade a Vocal Processor. That him and Bella try to fix into him finding it was Dud.. Later on he fight Prime and somehow he talks for a few sec just before Prime was going to end his life.

    Bumbleebee Movie. He talks before that Seeker said something.. Is that right i make sure of it.. And Rips his Vocal Processor. As he asks him where is Prime And he says I never Tell.

    So going from Megatron and that Seeker and get him to talk in different Films Is really confusing . Is that all down to Bay. Its somthing thats Annoying me.
     
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    The thing about Megatron was only in the prequel comics not the movies themselves, and according to Bay 'if it didn't happen in the movies, it didn't happen'. Most of the movies contridicted previous tie-in material in some way.
     
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    Megatron was in the comics. The bee movie was a prequel/reboot. No one knew what it was and still don't fully. Paramount keep changing it's mind. But since the 07 movie itself just said he lost it in battle, it lines up with bee as a prequel, you just have to ignore the expanded comic universe.

    As for tlk, prime seems to forget that he heard bee speak in 07. Although that has been retconned i think so 07 wasn't his normal voice. This does line up with bee movie in that prime heard bee speak before the fall of cybertron, but then he lost it by the time prime got to earth. It doesn't line up with what burton said about bee being on earth in ww2 but very little of what burton said lines up with anything, so i put that down to burton having some kind of mental disorder and making up all that history in order to fit himself in with history. After all, lambo hot rod in civil war america? Peterbuilt prime with george washington?

    So, bee's voice does line up with the three movies, if you squint. What doesn't make sense is how he talked in tlk in the nemesis fight. He ripped the siri voice out earlier.
     
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    Tlk should of kept him with vocal processer that day trader give him.. And it would had him talking through the movie. Making it more enjoyable.
     
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    Welcome to the Bayverse.
     
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    Yeah it's no wonder why Bumblebee film did poorly. The general audience has no connection to the character because he couldn't even talk ffs. There's no reason at all for this weird character design. They should have Just let him talk, build his character as much as they did optimus and just maybe the bee movie would have had a better chance. Fk Bay.
     
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    Why the hell would he need permission to speak? And call Prime "Sir"

    Poor poor writing
     
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    The fuck? The movie made back its money what are you talking about? Does it have to reach 1 billion for it to be considered a success? I'd rather take quality over quanity
     
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    I wouldn't mind the guy who did his voice at the beginning of the film to come back and voice him properly. I thought it fit really well, speaker mouth and everything.

    That's quite the contrast to the positive critical reception and the massive popularity of the character as a mute. The whole reason the BB movie got made was because Bumblebee, lack of voice and all, was an explosively popular character. Audiences connected to him just fine in that film.

    The reason BB wasn't a massive hit was because it was a smaller scale movie released against heavy competition and had hardly any marketing compared to previous films. And it still turned a modest profit.

    Because that's what soldiers do. You don't speak openly in front of a commanding officer without permission unless it's an emergency, and you generally regard officers by their rank or by "sir."

    However in the context of that scene Bumblebee was just announcing that he could speak, rather ironically asking for permission despite being physically unable to at that point, which led into his request to stay with Sam. It made perfect sense and actually had personality, being overly formal at a time where it really wasn't necessary or expected.

    It feels weird even having to explain that, but here we are.
     
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    nah, bumblebee is a straight-up reboot altogether
     
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    lol what? All the other Autobots speak without having to ask for permission and certainly don't call Prime "Sir"
     
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    mods can you please add laugh emoji's as a react to posts?
     
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    I guess you didn't read the second paragraph? Bumblebee was just introducing the fact that he could speak, the joke being that he's asking for permission to do something he's been physically incapable of doing. It's not a question he needs to ask, that's the point. I think 99.99% of viewers got that.

    They're probably not going to do that.

    Honestly I don't even think the like function was something they actively pursued, it just came with the current board software.
     
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    I'm not sure if you've heard but the film industry is a business and films don't get made if they don't make enough money. Emphasis on "enough". Hence why we are not getting Bumblebee 2.

    For a once billion dollar franchise Paramount was disappointed with BB. But hey don't take it from me go ask Paramount why "making back its money" isn't enough for them.
    Bumblebee Movie Was (Barely) A Box Office Success


    There are many factors why the movie underperformed but one reason why is you can't build a spinoff franchise off a character if you don't spend time endearing people to said character. People like Bee but they LOVE Optimus hence why the Bee sequel is canned and Optimus is coming back. Optimus is popular because the movies focused on his character. It's really not rocket science.

    You have to understand us TF fans count for very little of the overall box office profits, it's the general audience that matters. We like Bee because we've known him since G1 but for everyone else they know him as the mute yellow car that pissed on John Turturro and other funny scenes.
     
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    I agree for the most part-I am way past tired of this mute Bee bull____. There was also the issues of: 1)Franchise Fatigue; 2)Releasing Bumblebee when they did. By the time BB came out, what preceded it had long left a putrid stench in the air-so much so, that there were folks (including ones I encountered) who mistakenly thought Bay directed it, and they had no interest due to that.

    It took BB awhile to find it's footing. Releasing it next to Aquaman and Mary Poppins wasn't too smart a move either, because that meant BB had to fight even harder to get any traction at all w/audiences. It's almost like it was set up to fail-especially with the reluctance of many of the suits and ties (even now with ROTB) to firmly declare where and how it fit into the "continuity" (something which has pretty much been a blatant afterthought).

    Let's also not forget that Travis Knight, while helming a pretty good entry, also had to answer to 2 folks (who'll remain nameless;) ) in the hierarchy of Paramount, who were largely responsible for that aforementioned stench. The same 2 folks whom Steven Caple, Jr. also has to answer to.

    We shall see what transpires in the next year and change-hopefully, this Hasbro/Paramount situation, and moreso, how they respond to it, won't cause them to implode on themselves.
     
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    But we've been told ROTB is a sequel to Bumblebee so we are technically getting a Bumblebee 2. If it did poorly, we'd be getting a sequel to where TLK left off (or perhaps they would have just stopped making Transformers films altogether). I mean, making a direct solo Bumblebee sequel would have been a terrible idea anyways considering the ending of the film sets up for an ensemble film.

    Also, you're selling Bumblebee way too short considering it still made more money than many franchise films such as Spider-verse, Mary Poppins, Godzilla KOTM, Detective Pikachu, Sonic, and others. For a smaller-scaled character spin-off coming out a year after the worst Transformers movie ever made, that's incredible.

    Except nothing in that article came from Paramount. It's just an opinion piece...
     
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    Bumblebee did well with the budget and if you never noticed all it took is one good movie and the people hated the other films after the 07 film or first 3 are now back and excited of course because mainly bay isn't doing it but I like to say that it was the movie mainly what it did for . Plus this movie is a bee movie 2 in a way kind of just with a bigger cast only thing is I believe this focuses on optimus more correct me if I'm wrong