That’s because while TLK was a dumpster fire, the cast members they hired are professionals who know the industry, so they don’t whine like little kids and blame everyone else.

Also Eternals is doing fine, only negativity around the movie is from critics who also gave sharknado a higher rating so not much to trust there.

 

Eternals has done about $281.4 million which
honestly Eternal is doing pretty good considering it’s banned from China.

 

It's amazing how people will continue to just state that Eternals is a flop, despite making almost 3/4 of shang chi's box office after 2 weekends.

 

Its a flop by Disney standards.

 

Do you consider Black Widow and Shang Chi flops as well?

The point is, it's performing as well as any other pandemic release.

 

Or by yours.

 

And considering it's banned in China and other countries (cause of a scene) it's doing pretty well.

 

I highly doubt this delay is to make the film better. Star Trek got delayed to the same christmas 2023 release date, its something the executives decided with no input from the filmmakers.

 

It satisfied millions of fans who became new Transformers fans. Fans where the Bayverse is their G1. Studio Series was made specifically to cater to movie fans who are generally old enough to either spend their own money or have their own income.

In that way the movies did satisfy people. They were trash films sure but entertained the masses until it just got too repetitive. To say the films didn't satisfy people is ignorant of reality.

 

If it wasn't for the 07' movie (and also seeing TFA as a kid afterward) I wouldn't have known/discovered TF's as a kid and probably never would have gotten into the franchise.

 

I think you misinterpret my comments simply because one sentence follows the other. I made two statements in response to 2fabdad. First, that Bayverse in my opinion didn't choose wisely (because I thought it was unappealing). Second (and separately), that trying to please everyone can lead to pleasing no one. I didn't say that Bayverse pleased no one, because unlike 2fabdad, I don't honestly think the intention was for it to have broad appeal. Bay made decisions about these productions that polarized the potential audience. I didn't like these films... any of of them. I can list off a dozen specific reasons, any of which might be why another person loved them. I don't think they made any attempt whatsoever at pleasing everyone, but some people definitely found them entertaining.

 

I thought the plots were. Both of those movies had things that didn't make sense given what they presented.

 

I have never paid to watch a Transformer movie, but that's one I would.

live action
G1 cartoon looking designs like in the Bumblebee movie (meaning a completely new design for Bumblebee himself)
put one or more of the cartoon plots in it or make something up
make it make sense (don't give characters flight and then have them not do it later with no explanation for example)

 

Same here, i discovered Transformers thanks to the Bay movies.

 

These Transformers movie doesnt spark any interest to me. Ill watch it on a straming service when it becomes available. IF it was G1 theme like Bumblebee then Id be interested hehe.

 

Same. I’d love to be excited about this, but I’m not. I wish newer TF media would either respect and refine G1 or else create completely new characters and leave the old ones alone. The bastardization used to bother me, but now I’m simply disinterested.

 

I see what you did there  

 

I'm actually feel quite the opposite.

Maybe it's because I'm a huge Halo fan and I'm seeing what the one-year delay has done for Halo Infinite's quality, but I'm optimistic that this movie might be getting more polish and love from this.

After AoE and TLK, I'm well aware that I could be 100% wrong - but I'm Optimis-tic.

 

Ghostbusters 3 lost A Lot of money by moving the date. Move the date back were it was.

 

What?