Toyworld Constructor (Devastator/Constructicons)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by daimchoc, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. metalwar2010

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    Looks like Zeta and the 2nd is Warbotron. Not sure if the Wabrotron is the Jinbao version, if I remembering that correctly or not.
     
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    One is zeta metalic the other jinbao os warbatron
     
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    Why does this come out so easily? Does it suppose to have glued it or something?
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    That is broken, unfortunately. Sorry to see that. This happened to mine as well. It looks like you have one of the first releases of a few years back. I think this was a known issue. Poor quality. I think the redesigned barrel is better. Well, at least mine is. And there is no fix. When that happened to mine, I just stuck the metal part into the drum and displayed it as such.....sigh
     
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    What is suppose to hold the metal pin inside the drum? Is it suppose to have a clip, glue or something?
     
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    Well now that yours is broken, you can look inside. The two halves slide apart pretty easily at the yellow stripe. Inside you can see how it's all connected. Not that complicated of a mechanism.
     
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    Well, for those wondering, after further investigation and soul searching and trying to fix stuff, I've agreed to send the whole lot back to the seller for a full refund.
    There are 13 Limbs with broken screw posts, Scavengers Torso is seperating as a result of the massive spring in it for his shovel. Scrappers knee would not hold together with two part super plastic adhesive. The combined mode hip section had 3 broken screw posts as well. I started using a two part epoxy putty so shore up screw posts, but I've realised that nearly every limb has at least 1 or 2 screw posts that can't be shored because of surrounding moving parts, and the post length is beyond the longest screw I could order at a M2.2 size by nearly 10mm, so the same failure would likely occur, just further in to the post. There were other parts with cracks. I am pretty confidant I would have failed to fix everything and even if I did, it's pretty much a ticking time bomb.

    I thank you all for your support and advice, hopefully some time down the road someone else makes a Large, MP scale Devastator that isn't a QC Disaster.
     
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    Sorry to hear that man. Mines great, but I got the second run. Hopefully you can get an earlier run with less QC on the second hand market. With FT pushing prices up I'm sure people will soon start leaving the collection game..
     
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    Damn shame. Honestly, the first ones that came out a few years ago were never this problem plagued. I was very lucky to never have something like this happen to any of the ones I purchased. Seems like this is isolated to all of the new X versions that were recently released. At least that's what it looks like. I don't read too much about people having issues with the battle damaged, cell shade nor the weathered one which I also have.
     
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    That bar connects to a circular Gear that controls the rotating drum gimmick. Unfortunately that pin is held in place by friction only. That's why it has a knurled end. The gear is also made with a really thin plastic. My V2 came broken with that pin hanging loose and it took Show Z months to get me a replacement. I ended up breaking a couple of replacement gears too but I ended up using a combination of luck and plastic cement.
     
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    Just as I thought because I cant really find any clip or glue mark under the drum. May I know how you apply the plastic cement to get the problem solved? Wondering if applying superglue on the pin and stick it into the drum will get the problem solved or not?
     
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    I pretty much took everything apart. I took out the mixing drum and diassembled it. That's how I found out the gearing mechanism that poweres the gimmick. You have to carefully diassmble the gearing mechanism. I suggest taking photos so you remember the gearing order but its not as hard as it looks and having a good set of Jewel's or Watchmakers flathead screw drivers. The bar goes through a hole on one side of the gearing mechanism so you know which is the damaged gear. You're looking for this gear.

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    I went through a couple of these but I got it to work by reinforcing that area where you see the crack with I think is Gorilla Glue. You also have to make sure you don't go overboard cause it might jam the mechanism when it operates. It's a pretty good gimmick if the plastic they used wasn't soft and didn't use a pin system to attach them together.
     
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    Avoid the X version (TW-C07X) at all cost, that's the purchase I regretted the most in my life. The plastic is so brittle that many places would break easily even without much force. And you can also see the sign of mold degradation is everywhere on the figure too, resulting a worst transforming experience and even affect the posing for a bit. If you happen to own a X version, I would strongly suggest just combine it into the combine mode right away and don't touch it anymore.

    The old green/weathered (TW-C07G), seems better in their plastic than X-version, I guess probably Toyworld use a slightly better material considering they are trying to paint on it and would need harder material to handle those tighter joints after paints. The paints are really gorgeous, words are hard to describe their beauty, a stunning show piece indeed! Things I hate is their redesigned tracks for the bulldozer and crane, they fall off too easily!!! Old green also cannot transform because the paint is too thick already, I don't want to risk breaking it by imposing too excessive force for the transformation.

    Many of you said green v2 (or TW-C07 gift box set version) has the best material overall and that's so true after I bought it eventually and play with it. v2 has the best built materials compared to the X version, old green, and V1 that I had owned. The v2 plastic material is solid like rock, to a point that you can swell your fingers from playing it, but I like it a lot, it means great material that I can play with totally no worries. The v2 also doesn't see any sign of mold degradation (probably due to very early version of this devastator) and they also fixed quite a bit of issues from V1, resulting the best overall transformation experience. The only problem I have with v1 & v2 is the mixer barrel that loses its auto-turning mechanics very easily, not much problem with old green version's new designed mixer barrel apparently but my X version mixer barrel broke once and I had gotten a replacement and I didn't want to play with it anymore.

    Overall, I love v2 the most, v1 comes second. Old green is great show piece, no regret purchasing it too. Just share my experience after obsessed with Toyworld Devastator for a while.
     
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    Well said man!! I will say that my X has held up and IMHO, there must have been some supplier issues with the plastic used. I think as time went on the quality of the later X sets made was just pure F'n garbage compared to the earlier ones released. At least that is what it seems like. Enjoy your weathered version!! I like mine as well!! :D :rock 
     
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    Thank you for your insight.

    I convinced myself that buying the separate team members/ figures would be preferable than the actual full sets released because packaging on the latter re-issues chose plastic clamshells over foam inserts although I’m not sure if that has been of all orders received recently. The foam inserts seem to yield better results than plastic clamshells when orders are in transit in terms of less movement, damage/broken parts. I’ve stuck with the default TW-C07 (I thinks v2) despite liking many of the other sets.

    Sadly the route I’ve gone and being late to the party, I’m still trying to get my hands on TW-C01 (bulldozer), C02 (unearth) and C06 (concrete). I don’t have the skills to copy somebody who did a hybrid of Jinbao OSKO Grav Builder with Toyworld’s Constructor. They integrated the TW Pants with the Jinbao set.
     
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    You are right, plastic clamshells does make figure broken even more due to excessive shakiness during transport, foam inserts are so much more secure.

    What you are searching is actually V1 and they are really hard to come by individually these days especially the 3 you are looking for. But if you search hard enough, probably you could still find someone selling 6 box sets together of v1 though. For your info, V2 also comes with form inserts.

    Even though V1 has slightly softer plastic than V2 and some areas of V1 are prone to break if you are not careful enough during transformation (these prone to break areas have been fixed in V2), V1's material is still day and night better than the brittleness of X version. There is one good point about V1 compared to V2 though, that it has slightly better paint job in my observation.
     
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    Thought I'd share some work I'm doing on alternate faces for Constructor. One of them has eyes you can switch out toy vs. toon. I just have some vinyl slapped on there to show the concept. In terms of faces there's a goofy one in there for good measure, and some more with a bit more detail...overall the goal is to get something that works with the reasonable level of detailing this figure has. (BTW far right is the original sculpt I did some time ago)

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    Also working on a process I call "uber finishing", with the ultimate goal of getting the smoothest possible look out of a 3D print. Sounds jazzy but it's really just heavy, heavy labour, lots of coats of primer, etc.

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    We need more details about this one

    Damn this happened to me too. Too late for refunds.
     
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    It doesn't affect the transformation and also the look of the figure though, so I can look past it. When I have the time, I will try to repair it.
     
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    Check the KO OS GT GRAVITY BUILDER (DEVASTATOR) thread. Its a seller on taobao called LIKEToy. Its not actually zeta/tw pants but rather than a copy. They made a computron and abominus that looks similar as if zeta made it. Super sick but they are all 3d printed.
     
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