The Knock off transformers thread

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by blunghole, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. fpjones3

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    @Kuma Style reviewed that before. The main difference with the old and new KO is the missing sigil. Those weapons also didn't come with the older KO.
     
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    No, i know about the one that kuma reviewed. The one that i asked is from different brand, much newer in term of release date, and also cheaper compared to the one kuma reviewed, despite coming with more extra stuff, hence my question.
     
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    A little research/rant/story about the PlayTheGame brand:
    Many a KO in Russia is found under the label "PlayTheGame". Hailing from the glorious China, they are a KO brand that makes "first-stage" (KO of official toys), "second-stage" (KO of KO) and original design figures. I divide them into following classes:
    1) "Deluxe" class. A vaguely defined class larger than Prime Wars Legends and smaller than a Prime Wars Deluxe. They are sold on individual cards (a little cheaper than a dollar) and in packs (I have seen only a "Mobile Strike Force Jiangu" in a Gunpla-imitative packaging). They have a huge variation of molds, taken from Animated, pre-CW CHUG, RiD and Movie. Some of them are non-combining versions of CW Deluxes.
    2) "Diecast" class. They have somewhere around 3 original (or at least ubiquitous enough to lose all HasTak connection) car molds, they actually have diecast parts and cost around two dollars.
    3) Combiner class. Each component is sold on a huge blister for two dollars, while box sets (extremely rare) cost around 4,5 dollars. Known combiners in order of production:
    1. Second-stage Dinobot KO (box set comes with two identical pterosaur arms, a triceratops arm sold separately). A "first step", quite simplified, but not much.
    2. Bruticus, obviously simplified from WFC/Generations one, box has two Brawls, Swindle sold separately.
    3. Predaking(?), a pinnacle of PTG design, any bot can be any part of the combiner, a sort of super-"Scramble City" combiner, comes with a ton of accessories, mostly guns and katanas. Breakage alert. Boxset includes all members.
    4. Second-stage Defensor with minor Daiohja features. An inventive form of combination, but unstable. Boxset includes all members.
    5. "Tracked vehicle + building truck" guy. Seems original. Exists in two variations: Jägdpazner-like AFV + dump truck and tracked crane + cement mixer. The tracked vehicle bot forms the upper body by folding his legs back and the truck guy becomes the lower body by relocating the arms (making them Super Ginrai-type platform shoes) and bending the torso back. No box sets seen.
    6. Truck combiner. 5 red trucks with different attachments on the truck bed that become a super-"Scramble City" combiner. No box set seen.
    7. 4-component combiner. Drill truck (legs), fighter jet (upper torso) and two racing cars (arms and shoulders). Quite rare.
    8. Hexagon connector guy. Dump truck, two tanks (one looks like an AA vehicle and the other is a casemate gun, maybe a tank destroyer), a sportcar and a minivan form a semi-"Scramble City" robot. I got it recently as a box set. The review is coming soon.
    9. Modern tank + fighter jet. Very rare, never had a chance to buy it.

    Hexagon connector guy (aka Hexatron).
    I bought a box set one day, containing what I presumed was a Menasor (he was on the package art, holding an unidentifiable Targetmaster gun in one hand and a Masuta Sōdo (Master Sword) in another.
    I was quite surprised when I discovered that nothing on the picture was in the box. IMG_2097.JPG IMG_2098.JPG

    Seems like a standard Chinese combiner. I thought so too. But it was also different from a common KO.

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    The dump truck guy is the chonkiest of them. He has ratchets (!) in his knees and shoulders. For combination the shoulders can lock in a neutral pose. IMG_2102.JPG
    He has a shield with a combination point thich can attach to his shoulder. IMG_2103.JPG
    Looks like a Zaku II!
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    The sportcar guy is a nice figure, with all the dump truck guy's articulation plus transformation-related ball joit feet and rotating waist. However, his arms bend inwards, forcing him into perpetual "muscle flex" or "fancy kung-fu stance" poses.
    The armor/car rear actually moves on sliders:
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    The jeep/minivan (I haven't decided yet) can have the AA tank turret on its roof. This guy features an easy transformation:
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    His slender proportions and huge wings make him looks like Ransack from the Movie/Hunt for the Decepticons line.

    The "AA tank" is a weird thing. The pair of thing I assume to be autocannons looks nice, but being unable to elevate they don't seem to be AA at all. The turret actually resembles the Sicaran battle tank from Warhammer 40000 Horus Heresy. The hull is a generic one.
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    The tank guy has knee ratchets, hip ball joints shoulder ball joints and honged shoulder elevation. The feet can swivel slightly from side to side ans a result of transformation.
    The elbows feature sliders:
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    The casemate gun (think SU-76 or Nashorn) is the weirdest figure in the set for reasons I will note below:
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    He possesses a non-working slider on his waist for unknown reasons. The shoulders are asymmetrical, and the arms are too. However, the asymmetry is hidden for reasons unknown. IMG_2121.JPG
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    Combination:
    The tank guys feature double sockets, one allowing them to become legs and the other to become arms. The sportcar guy has a leg connector on his knees and the arm connector is his head. The jeep guy has only one connector, dooming him to the role of an ill-defined arm.
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    Attach the shield to the dump truck guy's shoulders:
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    The casemate top is removed to become a locking piece for legs.
    Attach the limbs:
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    I have transferred the turret to the right shoulder.
    Major complaint: Why? Why are the ports hexagonal? Of course, it solves the floppy joint problem, but the combiner is effectively a statue.
     
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    The Humvee, tank, and dump truck are really poor quality KOs of the Miniforce X combiner bots. I have the official and these look like somebody tried to copy them while shutting one eye and spinning around rapidly.
     
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    I mean, aliexpress refunds are easy to get.
     
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  11. RussianSentaiFan

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    Then from where do the others come?
     
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    Russian nesting Soundwave.... Sorry I'll see myself out. IMG_20211021_213003_314.jpg
     
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    Nah. Plastic was far sturdier and more rugged than the NBK. A kid could throw the JJ at a wall and it'd be just fine. I got a Hook from their set to mix and mod with my NBK and the build quality was quite good. Considering it was $10, I had to work far harder to cut and dremel that guy than I expected, lol

    The main issue with the JJ was that they REALLY simplified everything to ridiculous degrees.

    They don't look like any of the other Miniforce combiner bots, so I have no idea.
     
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    That reminds me speaking of KO Hulkies I bought a orange Hulkie KO (no guns) marked as "6-in-1 Transforming" I think the boxes were coffin boxes with windows in yellow originally so called "Supermarket toys". they have unpainted wheels and tracks

    Now ages ago I got another Hulkie KO in green with weapons and with more paint. But just recently I heard mention there is a green version of the weaponless one too - so I was curious what is the differences - I assume it lacks guns and has less paint but is otherwise the same as the Orange ?

    I was curious to know is it the exact same shade of green as any of the other Hulkies ?
     
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    I like that fruity constructicon set, how much does it run?
     
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    Multicolored construction team? Reminds me of Bob the Builder.
     
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    Best KO Devastator opinions go.
     
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