Rise of the beasts set photos, leaks, and interviews thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by mn_128875, Jul 7, 2021.

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  1. MarikZero

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    Scourge doesn't have any predacon logo on his grill, that's pretty interesting ... I wonder what that will mean story-wise. There must be a reason for him not having killed any Predacon yet. Doesn't he know they exist? Or are they too dangerous or hard to find?

    Also, considering the leak about BB's death ... that fresh Autobot logo may be his. That would be pretty cool, and a good reminder for Optimus to make up for his mistakes as a leader (since this seems to be an important focus about him in this movie).
     
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    im loving that prime, especially all his vehicle kibble, I wished they added more to the backside of the Cab
     
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    There is no such thing as Executive Meddling from "The people that own the franchise sent the movie crew pictures of the logos they are currently using for reference", which is all this is. This situation is getting pretty absurd, you are having weekly meltdowns over the film and it looks like when you are unable to find someone tangible to talk about you try swinging in mad directions that just flat out lack attachment to reality. Honest to god, there is a point where you have to sit and re-look at priorities and analyze if you're engaging with the content in a healthy manner.
     
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    I believe that’s what they plan on doing with Rattrap, due to his strange absence in all the leaks.
     
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    I believe Noah gets involved with the Autobots by Mirage, and meets Fishback’s character when the Autobots and Maximals meet each other, since during that time she would’ve been with the Maximals.
     
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    Wow, they're really still trying to hold on to that Mercenary insignia? I mean, it's not a bad design necessarily, but literally only two figures had it and nobody liked that they did.

    Also, they're really trying to push this unnecessary and inferior Wrecker insignia huh? What's wrong with the old one? It was a simple and appealing logo that felt right at home with the Autobot and Decepticon ones, unlike the overdesigned new one.

    I dunno, I just feel the same with the new Wrecker insignia as I did with the Quintesson insignia redesign. It feels completely unnecessary and the new one is so much more complicated and unappealing compared to the new one. At least for me that is.
     
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  7. Sablebot

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    I hear you. My point exactly. From what I recall, that's not what a red cross represents, and while military (and other) medics should have the right to defend themselves, their medical prowess is what qualifies them and their workspaces to be graced with a red cross.

    Reminds me of a satirical cartoon that existed at one time. It was called, "Supernews" and it satirized alot of pop culture, including bay and co.'s handling of Transformers. In this cartoon, every time someone questioned bay about the numerous explosions he used, or some questionable design or filmic choice, bay kept answering, "Because it looks cool!". Ironically, that has been a defense he's constantly used in real-life-and to add insult to injury, when one adds someone like Lorenzo to that equation, it only gets worse. . .

    Like Autobot Burnout said, folks like him, Novaburnhilde, Music, myself, and some others are questioning the details we're told, because we see the big picture. I'll go even further and say that neither the picture nor the frame it hangs in look sturdy enough to be classified as a piece of art that can hang on a wall. The frame may have cracks in it, and it, the picture and the glass covering the picture, will fall and shatter into pieces. We shall see several months from now if that ends up being the case or not. . .
     
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    All I want is for this movie to be good. That's all.
     
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    That doesn't mean they are killing him off. He could just not be in the movie.
     
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    Except that you didn't actually look at the bigger picture, just violently tap the keyboard in front of the computer desk.

    First it was the debate about "Mirage or Jazz", then it was furious with Michael Bay who was traveling in Peru, and now this. Ask yourself sincerely, do you really just hate them for turning Mirage into a Porsche? You are basically just constantly against anything related to this film, because it was made by Paramont/Lorenzo again, anyone who follows this thread can see it. I can even imagine how you would react if they really kept the Mirage as a formula car, or canceled the nod to the newest symbols of the different factions —— there would be no difference. He who has a mind to beat his dog will easily find his stick. If you just hate the existence of this film, then just say it directly without making excuses, we can understand it.

    It makes sense to lower the expected value appropriately. But people continue to pay attention to the news of this movie for a reason. Whether it is looking forward to the appearance of the characters or enjoying the process of guessing the plot, no matter how I can guarantee that no one will click on this thread every day just to watch the latest episode of 35-year-old Joey. This has nothing to do with being a "Devil's Advocate", but has something to do with your chatter.
     
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    It's not that deep, they clearly requested assets from Hasbro who provided them the newset versions of them, that's it. I'm sorry the little wee badges on the bad guy truck being the newest ones are ruining your enjoyment of a movie that is still being filmed.
     
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    Sorry, how does a flashback or montage convey him being a threat more "efficently" than him just wearing trophies of dead Transformers? Surely that would be the opposite.
     
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    Aight time for the next Joey copypasta: This time about faction symbols
     
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    I notice no Predacon faction symbol on him. Either Scourge hasn't taken one down, one is not clearly shown, or he is allied with them.
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking. A few metal symbols on his grill is much cheaper than animating flashbacks.
     
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    I do agree that they probably didn't need to go with so many different types of faction symbol; the basic Autobot, Decepticon, Maximal and Predacon symbols would;ve been enough and pertinent, especially when the Wrecker and mercenary symbols are really just manipulations of the other faction symbols. Though the absence of a Predacon symbol is presumably deliberate and intriguing. Ultimately, though, I doubt we'll get more than a fleeting glance of them in movie itself (at least close up) and hopefully they serve to enhance Scourge's characterisation and not replace it.
     
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    "Well someone has to"
     
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    Or maybe it's a harmless Easter egg
     
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  19. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    Please, do go on and tell me what else is going on that we don't know about that Hasbro could have been influencing. Maybe you're right and it was nothing more than a reference sheet...except they decided to use literally all of them except Predacon symbols because I bet somebody vetoed using the giant cartoony bug face.

    Because I was pointing out how such a simple thing was a red flag for potentially more problems (and oh what do you know...)

    Because everybody in this thread loves moving goalposts and originally one of the defense lines was Michael Bay wasn't involved...and then out of the blue, HE'S INVOLVED ON SET AGAIN. Remember, Bay being on set led to the idiotic 'Romeo and Juliet' scene in Age of Excrement, because that scene reportedly wasn't actually scripted, it was just something Bay decided to do off the cuff. And again, that's another red flag.

    ...at what point did I ever say I had a problem with Mirage being a porsche period? I never did. I've said they could paint the damn thing blue with a white stripe (which is more accurate to the character anyway) and it would be fine. Remove the spoiler and it would be fine. If Jazz didn't exist and have his most well known alt. mode be a Porsche that looked very similar in color and profile because of the wing spoiler, Mirage being that porsche would be fine.

    I just don't want Mirage looking like Jazz.

    I do not care that Mirage is not an F1.

    The problem here is if you took that red cab over being used for Optimus...oh, except that's not Optimus, that's Ironhide. Stupid concept, right?

    That's what I see with Mirage using a vehicle that would have been the perfect candidate for Jazz and they just saved it for Jazz for a possible sequel, since it doesn't matter what Mirage is.

    I love how you see nitpicking as 'not enjoying' instead of, y'know, trying to dig deeper into the production as a bigger picture. Because heaven help me for trying to understand the bigger picture and why certain design choices were made. At least I'm trying to talk about the movie, even if it's negative, as opposed to the borderline kiss players type content discussion over Arcee that happened some posts ago and nobody batted an eye at.

    As Mark Twain once said, "Don't say the old lady screamed, bring her on and let her scream."

    It's the same principle. The abundance of stolen insignias are a visual metaphor for how many Scourge has killed, but on their own that isn't a very powerful statement.

    A good example of how to depict somebody as brutal as what having all the insignia should be comes from the 2007 movie when Prime does the projector thing and does a quick recap of the war's origins. In that bit, we see Megatron for the first time and he callously just throws a spear-like object and instantly kills a guy through impalement, who wasn't even attacking him. That illustrates what kind of individual Megatron is - a brutal, merciliess killer who uses lethal force casually on anybody if he feels inclined.

    Age of Excrement, you have Ratchet's death scene specifically to show off Lockdown, since he doesn't kill anybody else in the film.

    Even in Bumblebee, the interrogation scene between Shatter/Dropkick and Cliffjumper serves as this, since they could have written the Decepticons intercepting the message in any number of ways. No, the point of that whole scene was Cliffjumper's violent death to show that unlike Blitzwing (who was really playing with his kill and it backfired on him, literally), Shatter/Dropkick are much more violent and dispatch Cliffjumper the moment he is no longer of use to them.

    For Scourge, showing him killing and then going full Jigsaw, taking pleasure in removing those faction symbols and welding them onto himself, will have a far greater impact than simply saying he does this.
     
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    For all we know, there could be a plot specific reason why Scourge hasn't hunted a Predacon. (Maybe their allies or hasn't found them yet).
     
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