Paramount Planning On Making Fewer Big Budget Theatrical Productions And Focus More On Paramount +

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  1. Rob

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    Maybe he's a good executive.
     
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    Nothing can quite replicate the demand for heavily-costumed-Eddie Murphy movies that was the mid to late 90s.
     
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    Brian Robbins - Wikipedia

    I was gonna say how ridiculous of a choice that was but it appears he at least has some experience in that field, I guess we'll see.
     
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    If there's any potential silver lining to this, and I guess I'm being a bit optimistic. Is that Paramount/Hasbro will actually try to make some attempts at making their movies actually good to keep audiences engaged. But, maybe I'm being too optimistic.
     
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    I think part of the issue is that each MacGuffin is not particularly compatible with one another.

    Movie 1, all powerful live giving AllSpark that they're fighting over possession over, simple enough, works fine for what the movie is trying to do. Gets all of the players to where they need to be.

    And the AllSpark continues to be referenced in Movie 2, but now you have the Energon-generating Star Harvester which is powered by the Matrix, neither of which are apparently related to the AllSpark. And keep in mind the term Energon isn't referenced in Movie 1, but is now explicitly defined as the lifeblood of Cybertronians in ROTF (which is accurate, but raises questions about what the AllSpark was - did it generated unlimited Energon, etc., I think the comics addressed this but certainly not the movies proper).

    And then Movie 3 doesn't reference the AllSpark at all, but just outright states that Cybertron can be fully "repaired" using enough of a slave labor force. No Cybertronian plot device required (other than a means of transportation).

    So Megatron, especially in ROTF and DOTM, seems keen on preserving Cybertron and the Cybertronian race in a way that Optimus and the 'Bots don't seem to at all, they're just focused on protecting humanity.
     
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    It's even dumber than that.

    Megatron in DOTM plans with Sentinel to enslave humanity to rebuild Cybertron because of the latter's God complex. This doesn't make any sense when you consider Megatron was all for destroying all of humanity in the previous two films.

    How can he simultaneously want to murder all of humanity and not want to murder all of humanity? He literally couldn't win by his own inept design no matter WHAT happened.
     
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    Megs was always for restoring cybertron due to damage done by their wars. How to achieve this was always the plot macguffin of almost every movie he was in. 1. All spark. 2. Energy harvester. 3. The pillars. 5. The staff?
     
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    Yeah he could be a good President for Paramount, seems like he has a good eye for business from reading some recent articles. He is also the President of Nickelodeon, looks like he has done a good job there so far.

    This is a good article if you want to find out a bit more about him:
    Why Brian Robbins Is Taking Over at Paramount - Variety

    He could be the guy to help expand the Paramount's Transformers Universe into TV shows on Paramount+ which I would like to see. I feel like he would value Transformers as an important asset to Paramount, his comments about "SpongeBob being Nick's MCU" makes me think he would see Transformers in a similar light.
     
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    This is the same guy who thinks doubling down on spongebob is a terrific idea.
     
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    Maybe he changed his mind after Sentinel sold it to him the idea of efficient one time use disposable eco friendly worker :D 
     
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    No, in ROTF it's literally stated by either Megatron or Starscream on the ship (where we first meet Fallen and see all the protoform pods) that they just need the Energon to nurture a new Decepticon army (while simultaneously there's one on the moon that apparently they all forgot about existing). Cybetron is never even brought up by the bad guys.

    What's funny is that the movie continuity seems purposely designed to frustrate any and all attempts to reconcile it, since Megatron's plans across the first three films were all in effect before he ever left Cybertron. Remember, he leaves Cybertron and gets stuck on Earth during the last ice age, which is thousands of years before the Ancient Egyptian civilization and when The Fallen shows up. And yet by the same token, the movies imply that Megatron wanted to enslave the humans with Sentinel...while his boss was all for exterminating all organic life.
     
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    This Type of news I don\'t know why it\'s   worth  mentioning. I could   care  less about  streaming  services. I use  different kinds. I hated netflix. I  could  care less about  stuff like this.
     
     
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    Well other people use this site y'know.
     
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    Because it means Paramount, the people who make the movies (which are a big deal), are in financial trouble if they have to make a big showing of effectively splitting off a streaming division while announcing plans to try and scale down their movies.

    Since the movies generally are half this franchise these days (the other being G1), that's rather significant.
     
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    The Fallen betraying the Dynasty of Primes happens in 17,000 B.C. When he learns of Pre-Humans as shown in ROTF opening scene (presumably he told that story to Megatron), 7,000 years before the AllSpark crashed on Earh in 10,000 B.C., then around 9,000 years later Megatron arrived on Earth in 1,000 B.C. Making the War for Cybertron happening sometime between 17,000 B.C. and 10,000 B.C.

    Using B.C. was a bit confusing at first for me as well, 17,000 years ago happens before 10,000 years ago, bigger numbers happens first, opposite of 20th and 21st Century which 1900s happens before 2000s with smaller numbers coming first. Shifting from B.C. to A.D.
     
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    So that's one less layer of convoluted ill-planning, but it doesn't change the fact Megatron wants to simultaneously kill all humans and enslave all humans.

    EDIT: Goddamnit now you're getting ME mixed up, your dates are all wrong. The Pyramids only date back at most almost five thousand years from now (the 2000's) to then (2500 BC). Since The Fallen was around right before the pyramids were built, that still puts him on the planet after Megatron and the AllSpark were stuck at the north pole.
     
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    If this ends up being a soft reboot they are going to ignore all of that s***. Just because it is so confusing. And Super dumb
     
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    I have seen absolutely no evidence that this is going to be a reboot, much less the hard reboot that is necessary to completely kill bayverse as it should have been back in 2011. This stuff was just as equally dumb at the end of DOTM then as it is now, but the idiots at Paramount proceeded to continue with the series even if they largely ignored the continuity anyway through Age of Excrement establishing some stupid new origin plot that made zero sense. The very word "reboot" seems to be an unspeakable taboo term in hollywood these days and really it's crippling the industry as a result of nobody wanting to take chances with the reset button.
     
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    There is 400 B.C. you count backwards from year 0, 400 A.D, you count forward which is 400 years after Zero. 100 B.C. and 100 A.D are not the same and are 200 years apart. The Pyramid of Giza was estimated to be built 4,500 years ago. It was built around 2500 B.C. so you add 2,500 years that was before year 0 and 2,000 years to now.
    Timeline of ancient history - Wikipedia
    Checkout the brief ancient chronology chart.
    They'd still have to use this system as that is how ancient history is told in real life.
     
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    Oh I'm sorry I wasn't very clear I have no problem with the system I'm saying the whole idea of going back to Egypt then Megatron arriving on Earth during the war and making that timeline work is dumb.