no problem

Marvel has a host of cosmic entities that are more abstract then anything else, so basically their descriptions and sizes differ depending on the group Consciousness of the species

so not everyone sees Galactus as a large human in a purple suit of armor

this is galactus as most of us know him



But this (on the left) is also Galactus



In fact every image here is how Galactus appeared to different aliens in the cosmos

 

What about unicron’s other ability to rapidly heal from pure hatred. (armada)

 

Yeah I think Armada Unicron stands the best chance against Galaticus since he can not die as long as there's a single living being still alive.

But probably more of a "technically can't lose" type of chance than a "I can win" chance.

 

Didn’t Armada Unicron die at the end?

 

Only because primus intervened in energon/cybertron in armada he never actually died.

 

Not in Armada or Energon. At the end of Armada he was merely in the equivalent of a temporary coma, and Energon was dealing with the idea of Unicron being a force of destruction and creation and got used to make a new Star. Only reason he "died" in Cybertron was because Cybertron was made in Japan as a standalone show, so the dubbers made the black hole Unicron, affectively making all the Autobot's accomplishments in the previous two series meaningless.

 

So....the ability to rapidly heal from pure hatred didn’t really help him all that much I guess

thanks

so Let me ask a quick question, in Japan the black hole was not related to Unicron?

 

To be fair primus is unicrons stronger or equal other half.

 

I always felt Primus was depicted as weaker,but either way I don’t really see how that strengthens the case for Unicron over Galactus

From what I remember Galactus Once Resurrected himself and others even against the will of Death her/himself......And Death is a Cosmic entity/persona As well

defying Death seems a bit more then Rapid healing

so no size advantage and no healing advantage

 

It wasn't originally no, had nothing to do with him. It was a dub invention.

It later was when Takara decided to retcon Cybertron into the Unicron Trilogy on their end as well.

 

It wasn't a dub invention. In Galaxy Force, Primus and Vector Prime explained that the Grand Black Hole was formed due the Dark God being trapped within an object and destroyed.

 

But it was never mentioned to be Unicron.
It was a dub invention, that they went on to use to explain things like the Armour of Unicron and other stuff. And then Funpub used it to the nth degree of crazy to technically explain every continuity error ever of all time.

 

Yes but Primus stated that after the universe was created, a good being and an evil being were also formed. Primus is certainly the good being (he is also known as the Light God sometimes), so who would that Dark God, the opposite of Primus be?

 

Could literally be anything unless the cartoon says it.

IDW had Primus and simply "his opposite" for years and people where speculating if either were actually real or if Unicron was his opposite or not if they did.

Unicron being the black hole was a dub invention. The original simply had it as a "dark god". Nothing about Unicron or his actions or other stuff like the Armour of Unicron is ever brought up in the anime until it was retconned in.

 

Again Galactus who was from the last reality that the new main one replaced is shown to be alive at the end of all realities! He and reeds son are the only two alive. He has died a few times but comes back to life every time. Having ties to Mistress death who comes to talk to him at times doesn't hurt!

Keep in mind both the marvel transformers comics, 80s cartoon and idw transformers universe are part of the marvel multiverse!

No unicron hanging with Galactus at the end of all realities. He is not there.

Also the g1 cartoon unicron was just a robot made by a tiny lizard alien. No "evil god" there.

 

Thanks it’s been along time since I watched either version of that show

well I leave this one in the air

Marvel likes to claim every crossover as part of their multiverse for all time but unless they make new deals it’s not like they can revisit those crossover universes or the characters from other publishers with any true meaning

Cough cough Blured Alan

 

Idw crossover is in the marvel multiverse. It has it's own universe number. Even if marvel can't use it. He-man, star wars, star trek, james bond, jaws, scooby-doo, heathcliff, care bears, blade runner, dr who, real ghostbusters, roger rabbit, t2, archie, coneheads and tons of others are in it also. Marvel just can't use them other then in handbooks and background easter eggs.

The dc universe is in the marvel multiverse as well!

 

Like I said, Marvel likes to claim every crossover as part of their multiverse for all time

I’m not trying to be overly argumentative but If they can’t use it outside of some Purposely vague and and sometimes obscure Nod or Easter egg then it’s worthless.....particularly when trying to have this kind of conversation

So the fact that Unicron wasn’t sitting there with the “Big G” and Frank isn’t suggestive of anything other then Publication Requirements

But as far as I know Unicron has never done anything comparable in any Transformers series or books