Netflix plans a He-Man cartoon

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    I don’t mind the demon dimension, I think it’s cool, I would have used the Skelecons for that. I just don’t get the Skeletor noblle*ish origin. I hope it’s a lie because the motivation is terrible and why does he work with the evil warriors? It’s so clunky.
     
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    In any case, I doubt it will be relevant to the show anyway. Unless Part 2 shows us Skeletor reviving his dead wife or something.

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    Though I wouldn't object to the idea of this origin - if it was a case of him being totally evil and his wife being just as despicable, and he wants to bring her back so that they can rule together, and maybe bring their child back into the fold.
     
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    Honestly I think it’s half-baked bullshit that won’t make it into the show. I don’t think they’ll try and cram that into the show in the second half.
     
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    Regarding the apparent conflicting origins... depending on how closely involved Mattel is in this, we might already have an explanation:

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    Terrible name though.

    Do you suppose it's the same "realm of demons" where Granamyr keeps threatening to send people?
     
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    That’s Scott Neitlich, the former MOTU brand-manger, trying to meld Mike Young’s 200x and the Mini-Comics together, while incorporating Mark Taylor’s art. 1st Skeletor concept art.

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    Here is the original Skeletor story, without Keldor. The new Revelation comic is actually true to the Mini-Comics original story.

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    The later Mini-Comics hinted at “Keldor” but only implied Skeletor was Keldor, in “The Search for Keldor” mini-comic. Mike Young ran with that. The mini-comics had an ever-changing continuity as the show progressed.

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    My father and son rewatch of the Filmation shows just reached "Teela's Triumph". This one has some really nice bits of new animation and effects (plus some of Filmation's best recycled animation), especially near the beginning of the episode. It resembles 1970s Hannah-Barbera a lot less than usual, looking almost on par with late 70s anime instead. It gives a faint glimpse of what Filmation's work could've looked like if they had a real budget and a more forgiving schedule.

    The story itself is pretty solid, even though it mostly rehashes ideas and character development we already saw in Teela's Quest, and despite very little He-Man action.
     
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    I'm aware, but thanks for the nice overview. :) 
     
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    So I was thinking more about your comment now that I understand your point better. The comic has really been bothering me, all the more since Mattel just released The Rise of Evil 2-Pack further solidifying Keldor / Skeletor.

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    I know Mattel isn’t exactly a well run organization. But could Skeletor just be lying in the comic and a big “revelation” in Revelation is he is Keldor?

    Since we are getting Evil-Lyn in the comic and we know she is heavily featured in part 2 of the show, maybe Randor doesn’t know who Skeletor is. Like the old minis and the Filmation show.

    Scareglow is definitely the mini-comic version in Revelation. Smith appears to be drawing all his inspiration from the Minis.

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    I have no complaints about it, if that's the case.

    Granted, I think a lot of the Filmation concepts are (sometimes very) loosely taken from the minicomics already. Even though the TV version of the Sorceress is very different and isn't a goddess, and even though Teela is her literal daughter and not a clone made at Point Dread, that connection is clearly inspired by Teela's destiny in the comics. Both origin stories for Teela also involve an event that happens once every twenty years.

    The minicomic Power Sword has two halves. The Filmation Power Sword is whole, but "The Origin of the Sorceress" shows the Sorceress charged with safeguarding TWO of them--one later revealed to be She-Ra's Sword of Protection.

    Early minicomic Skeletor has an army of "his kind" waiting in another dimension. Cartoon equivalent would be the Evil Horde, also waiting in another dimension.

    In bringing the minicomics to a Filmation-inspired world, I wouldn't mind seeing these ideas syncretized rather than duplicated.
     
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    This may seem a touch off topic but.... was the Netflix Transformers: War for Cybertron series well received by the majority of fans on TFW2005 (and by majority i mean did at least 50.1% of the fans enjoy it. Not 25 to 30%)?

    I vaguely recall reading something that gave me the impression it wasn't extremely well received by TF fans here.

    It seems to have (possibly) done a far better job staying faithful to what fans of the I.P. want to see than Revelations did.
     
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    Personally I preferred Revelation.
    It got a couple of things wrong in a big way but I really enjoyed the rest of it.

    WFC was a total snoozefest, I couldn't be bothered to continue watching it.
     
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    Here's another one. I think Adora is loosely inspired by minicomic Teela.

    Skeletor was going to raise minicomic Teela from infancy in order to obtain the Goddess' power, unaware of her destiny to merge with the original Goddess and become a powerful force against evil. Man-at-Arms rescued her and raised her instead. Minicomic Teela rides a steed that is sometimes drawn as a horse and sometimes as a unicorn. She has golden blonde hair, cut a bit below her shoulders and wears a white leotard with gold armor over it, as well as tapered gold wrist guards.

    Hordak has Adora raised from infancy as a horde soldier because he sensed a special power in her, unaware of her destiny to share the Power of Grayskull and become She-Ra, a powerful force against evil. Man-at-Arms tried to rescue her, but failed. Adora rides a steed that transforms from a horse to a winged unicorn. She has golden blonde hair, cut a bit below her shoulders and wears a white leotard with a crimson vest over it, as well as tapered gold wrist guards.

    But it's totally a coincidence, right? :p 
     
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    Where did you get the idea that it was well received by most fans, a majority of what I have seen for WFC(including outside of TFW 2005) was people complaining for the series. Not to say I haven't seen people who enjoyed it they are usually hardcore G1 fans who don't like BW or causal fans who haven't seen the ideas in WFC in other TF media. I have seen both WFC and Revelations called trash but I think there are reasons for Revelation's greater backlash. Those would be Revelations had a bigger marketing push so there were more eyes on it, it's been almost 20 years since the last He-man series, and "politics".
     
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    Speaking of the minicomics, having taken a quick peek at the She-Ra ones, I think I'd like to see a She-Ra series that draws a bit from them. Not a straight adaptation, no, but beyond the first comic Hordak and the Horde were basically non-existent, and when the first issue cuts to Adora she was already She-Ra and enemy of Catra, with no word of her history of being raised as a Horde soldier. She also seemed to make no effort to hide her identity. The Netflix series sort of did that, and even featured Catra as Adora's primary antagonist more than it featured Hordak, until season 5 when Horde Prime took over, but still.
     
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    Did He-man ever have a love interest?

    I'm up to She-Ra now and watching "The Eldrich Mist" and it doesn't get more heavily implied than this that he really likes Castaspella.

    I'm assuming nothing ever came from that?
     
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    How about Teela and Frosta?
     
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    Teela I've seen, but not as much as gushy as Castaspella and He-man were written in that ep.

    I didn't see any eps yet with He-man and Frosta yet. Only on 32 of She-Ra
     
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    He was very big on Sweet Bee in her introduction episode in She-Ra, "Sweet Bee's Home", to the point of Frosta being openly jealous.
     
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    Teela was supposed to be the main interest, but they rarely did much with that. Some of the proposed sequel ideas would've had them married, but obviously those never happened.

    I'm going to take a guess that he gets more flirty in She-Ra's show because it's aimed more at girls, and girls are supposed to like romance more than boys do. (Hey, I don't choose the stereotypes...)
     
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