Netflix plans a He-Man cartoon

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by QLRformer, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Dolza_Khyron

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    Well, it's not that it shouldn't be put into a kids show. It's just that all that stuff is far more suited for Conan The Barbarian, than He-Man and The Masters Of The Universe. It just doesn't fit the material.
     
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    I'd take it a step further and simply state that the themes should be watered down so that the themes are acceptable when shown to non adults.

    Slavery and human trafficking has been included in comics and animation for as long as i've been on this earth *thinks about Exo Squad immediately*

    The point: Adults will still pay for Conan and GoT.

    Children can still enjoy sword and sorcery written at a level that is acceptable for "children" i.e. not r - rated.
     
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    Wasn't there an live-action Conan series announced a couple years ago? (Looked it up) yeah, last talked about for Netlix late last year. That should be the adult-aimed franchise like others here just said.
     
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    Of course. But I don't think the way to write Sword and Sorcery that children can enjoy is to just water down the adult version. Craft something for that audience from the ground up.
     
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    I didn't like the idea of 'r-rated' Gi Joe (aka Resolute), I don't like the idea of dark and broody Transformers. And, I certainly won't like the idea of this stuff for He-Man. That's the 'fan fictiony' stuff I'd prefer to be without.

    If we are going to have R-Rated things like this, I agree, it should be built from the ground up for an R-Rated audience. Not adapted from a G-Rated show transformed into an R-Rated one. If you are going to do this sort of thing, just stick to the things that already do most of the things that these properties already do. Conan, Expendables, ect. There are already franchises that do the majority of these things that were designed around/for an adult audience. And, these franchises should stick to the audiences they were intended for. Because that is the audience the material was made for. They were built around the audience of kids. I personally won't support anything that tries to change these things into things they are not.

    Idk, but there was that Conan live action series in the late 90's/ early 2000ths. I haven't seen that one yet, but it has popped up on Tubi, I certainly plan to get to it at some point.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but you're saying that one should...create for the audience you have in mind (in this example the audience would be children for the MOTU I.P. )?
     
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    I think MotU should be a mix of Star Wars and Lord of the Rings with He-Man being Conan the Barbarian meets Luke Skywalker.
     
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    lol yeah, we had a fun time talking on this thread probably a month ago about all the other genres MOTU hit besides Sword and Sorcery. It's a multi-faceted beast, that's for sure lol.
     
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    Hey, thanks for the heads-up! I remember catching a bit of it when it aired, never saw most of it, heard it wasn't all-that, but really want to see it for myself anyway.
     
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    I think there is a ...misunderstanding.

    A G rating for films/media:

    In the words of the Motion Picture Association, G is for General Audiences — all ages admitted, meaning there is nothing in theme, language, nudity, sex, violence or other matters that the ratings board thinks would offend parents whose younger children view the picture.




    A show aimed at children is , generally speaking, an adult (R rated or higher) show stripped of potentially offensive material. Literally.

    That's what a show written for children generally is (an exceptions that comes to mind is ...the teletubbies).
     
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    Oh, and of course the amazing Conan the Adventurer is there too. Which is another reason why I'd rather just have He-Man be He-Man, and not try to be Conan. Because I already have children-friendly Conan The Adventurer, oh and there is that pretty decent sequel too.
     
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    I still need to finish that sequel series. Conan protecting a bunch of kids isn't a premise I had interest in, but damn it, might as well get it in for completeness sake.
     
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    I can’t see a single parallel between GoT and MOTU.... besides the fact GoT was a disaster. Anything that actually made that story work is antithetical to MOTU, and it’s “Sword and Sorcery” is some of the least imaginary schlock I can think of. Wow dragons who woulda-thunk-it? And zombies?

    MOTU doesn’t even fit the bill as “sword and sorcery” it has sci-fi in its DNA. It’s a toyline, with toys and stupid names and bright colors and wacky shit. It’s fun and over the top. I hope it never shies away from being MOTU. I love Conan more than anything, I collect Conan stuff, I don’t ever want MOTU to be Conan either. MOTU needs to just be MOTU it’s already perfect.
     
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    Let's not forget differences in time too. What might have been considered non-offensive 20 years ago may not be viewed the same today. Japan's game rating system is a perfect example of that. Square-Enix had to alter a few suggestive areas of their remastering of "Dragon Quest VIII" because the rating guidelines got stricter in between then and it's original release, and Square didn't want it bumped up to an older-demographic rating.
     
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    Same here. I appreciate MOTU for what it is, and wouldn't want the core to change (despite being the guy saying they'd prefer to have Teela and Evil-lyn in their original outfits, that's a losing battle I have no trouble admitting). When I want my adult Sword and Sorcery quick, I got Conan, Red Sonja and King Kull, the various Conan-imitation movies made, and if I wanted even more of a sci-fi kick to it, Richard Corben's "Den". Oh, and Mike Grell's "Warlord"! That's an underrated masterpiece as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    I don't think the sequel series was every finished. I think it only has something like 13 episodes or so. But it is a great show. Unfortunately, I have only been able to find it on You Tube. The premise is a little silly, Conan escorting a bunch of kids. It is a large escort quest. And, the powers of the young warriors are little lopsided, one of them has the power of making illusions, another one has the ability to talk to animals (Like he is Ma-Ti). And finally, you've got the guy who can become invincible with his armor. Idk, the powers just seem a bit lopsided to me. LOL But, I really enjoyed the episodes, especially the episode about their backstory.
    I like how the thief girl turned out to not actually be their sister, but just a thief who stole the magic ring, yet somehow she was still supposed to have it.

    I agree with both of you, just keep these franchises as is. They don't need to become anything more than what they already are. They do not need to become GoT, or Conan. MOTU is it's own thing, it has a lot of Sword and Sorcery in it, but it also has a lot of Scifi elements as well. Let's just keep these things as they are, as their own franchises. If I wanted Game of Thrones, or Conan, I'd just watch/read that stuff. I don't need, nor want MOTU to become anything like it. I just want it to remain as it is.
     
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    Yeah my only problem with the new Revelation outfits is pants. WTF with the pants? You drop the pants and extend the tunics, it’s MOTU.
     
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    Yup. It’s best to remember Skeletor drives a Landshark.

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    A Land-Shark. A car. That’s a Tank. And also a robot shark.
     
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    When people say they want a super-mature, Edge Lord version of Master of the Universe, is this what they're thinking of? (WARNING: SUPER-NSFW lyrics despite being on YouTube)
     
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