Black Widow Movie

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  1. Gaastra

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    Chainsaw reacts talks about this also.

     
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    Dude I’m ready to argue and make a scene for $20 and I’m worth a lot more than that. That’s a crap argument.
     
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    If they’re willing to screw over a big name like Johannsen like that, imagine what they’ve done to lower tier actors.
     
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    Considering we'e have about every third well known actor campaigning to be in an MCU movie, even of there's not really a Marvel character that suits them, I can see beginner actors already in the franchise counting their lucky stars and allowing a bunch of set-backs in their contracts just to be allowed to come back and keep their parts.
     
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    Taking that into consideration I wonder how vocal ScarJo would be about this if Black Widow wasn't her final film? Not that I don't think she's deserved what she's owed, but I wonder if she still had an ongoing picture deal with them if she wouldn't let it slide because there might be a bigger payday later?
     
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    I kinda feel like it's probably the inverse. If this wasn't known to be her final movie, Disney probably would have been more communicative and reached some kind of deal with her camp so as not to upset the Marvel Golden Goose. But since she was done-done they were like, "fuck it."
     
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    That's entirely posdible too. Especially since I've seen a couple of articles in the last hour saying that Dwayne Johnson won't be suing Disney in a similar fashion due to having negotiated a new deal after Disney announced a D+ duel release for Jungle Cruise. If true it's a stark contrast to the claim that they ignored Scarlet completely.
     
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    She was suppose to be in a future Disney movie based on their ride Tower of Terror.
     
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    Only 2 Million went for the Disney+ deal. So $60M so its not like its taking hundreds of millions away from the BO. We are still in an era of people not wanting to go to the theaters. So no guarantees that the people saw it on Disney+ would have went to the theater.

    Think they just have to accept that films being released will not make the same $$ they would have before Covid & will probably be years before it gets to the same level again. Delta Variant is around now. So unless they want to hold these films for years, they just have to deal with these films not making the $$$ they want them to.
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn’t be sad to see the big budget blockbuster become a rarer event. Disney has been knocking out movies that makes hundreds of millions in box office but also cost hundreds of millions. So far the math has worked out, but if the global box office just isn’t that big, then the math is about to get really dicey. I can imagine we’re about to enter a period of smaller box office films with less special effects budgets soon.

    There will be a lag in this. As I understand it Shang Chi, Eternals, and Spiderman NWH are already in the can. But is Disney really going to commit big budget numbers to Antman and The Wasp 3, Blade, or even Fantastic Four?
     
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    Seems like Disney should take down Jungle Cruise from Disney+. They can't do anything with the people who already bought it but stop anyone else from buying it.

    Then no more theatrical/Disney+ releases the same day. Maybe release it on Disney+ a few months after the theatrical release date.

    Then from now on, put streaming releases into contracts.
     
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    Waited a little late didn't he?

    Gerard Butler sues over 2013 Olympus Has Fallen

    Gerard Butler Sues ‘Olympus Has Fallen’ Producers Over Profits – Deadline

    Floodgates are open. WB better watch out!
     
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    I wonder how the contracts are written. At least with Black Widow, it was filmed before COVID so it didn't take that into account. Did her contract actually spell out it was supposed to ONLY go to theaters first and nothing else?

    Disney could just count the profits from Disney+ towards the films total take. Which in Disney+, it actually gives them more profit vs the theater for the same dollar. Meaning, if the $60M the streaming made had went to the theaters, Disney would had to share the $60 with the theaters so the $$$ they get back would maybe be only $40M or less. Since they own D+, that $60 is all theirs (minus costs of maintaining the service of course)
     
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    Most contracts have what is called an act of god clause. They may try to use covid as such an issue.

    An act of God describes an event outside of human control or activity. ... Contractual language referring to acts of God are known as force majeure clauses, which are often used by insurance companies. These clauses typically limit or remove liability for injuries, damages, and losses caused by acts of God.

    A typical list of force majeure events include war, riots, fire, flood, hurricane, typhoon, earthquake, lightning, explosion, strikes, lockouts, slowdowns, prolonged shortage of energy supplies, and acts of state or governmental action

    It will depends on how the contract words such a clause.
     
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    Wish I could, but it’s got a thick paywall. Here’s a copy and paste from a B-tier website that quoted the article:
    Disney Insiders Blame Bob Chapek For Scarlett Johansson Lawsuit – Inside the Magic
     
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