Anyone else feel a bit overwhelmed with social media?

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  1. Murasame

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    I don't use social media and my phone is always silent. So, no.
     
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    Despite my generation mostly using social media, I never saw the appeal of it. I always preferred interacting with people in person. That doesn't mean I'm against being on a social media platform, but don't expect me to use it much. I prefer to keep to myself when I am not around.
     
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    This is literally the only reason I thought about joining Facebook. Apparently the only way to get certain parts for my truck is to join the Svt Lightning group on Facebook to see if anybody has one. Can't find the parts on ebay, even the place that makes reproduction parts recommended me to join the Facebook group, which I thought was kinda odd.
     
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  4. Dark Skull

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    I wholeheartedly disagree with the bolded part. Basic psychology teaches us that humans in general have a built in desire to be seen and liked (or seen in a good light by others). We've had this thing in us well before social media ever existed. The thing with social media is, it gives us a false sense of accomplishing that goal or obtaining that desire. If you treat social media as a social experiment, I'm pretty sure you'll find the results pretty damning. I don't think I need to tell anyone how you can find just how narcissistic people can be, how completely self unaware they can be, how ignorant they can be, how completely hypocritical they can be, how self righteous or self aggrandizing people can be, etc etc. In short, and bluntly...you can easily find out just how much of a piece of shit you're dealing with in terms of people as well as other types. Or maybe even a happy combination of sorts.

    A lot of social media netizens fail to realize that they're projecting their own failures onto others and vehemently deny anything and everything that goes against their own "story" so to speak. They believe people like the blue checkmarks...and soak in everything they say as if every little thing they say are the absolute truth and that there cannot be any other way of seeing things. In short...they're idiots thinking they're smarter than you while being totally oblivious to what's going on. And then this behavior bleeds out into real world and real life aspects of their own existence. A lot of them are unhappy people mistakenly thinking they can find happiness in the most trite, contrived, shallow means. They're wasting their time on useless endeavors and they don't even know it. A lot of them don't even know how they've inherently positioned themselves as blind followers instead of leaders. Lemmings so to speak. I could say more, but honestly, anyone that's been on social media long enough and have taken a step back just to observe and pay close enough to attention to themselves and others will know I don't need to even expand any further.
     
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  5. SPLIT LIP

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    I don't really have social media. I use facebook messenger for work conversations and discord for a few friends. Yet I still feel inundated with its drama because it infests other outlets of my online experience. I also have an instagram where I follow a few artists and post some of my own art, but between the ads and tone-deaf recommendations it keeps forcing on me I keep it to a minimum.

    Okay but I actually don't think you do, because the rest of your post seems pretty aligned with what he said. I think when Purple Heart says "people have built a psychological dependency" he isn't just referring to that intrinsic human need for expression and validation, but that people who actively use social media have warped that into something beyond that mere want for validation. He's saying the specific, distorted version of life social media gives us is what people who indulge on it are developing a need for, and they can't separate it from normal socialization. It's how we end up with so many socially maladjusted people who don't function in real life yet don't know they don't.

    Not everyone who uses social media is like this, but the people who depend on it certainly are.

    Funny you mention that, as I consider most if not all social media a monument to narcissism. It's mostly just people wanting to be told how pretty they are. I see this in how a majority of people have regressed to fawning over "e-celebrities" who are merely physically attractive and nothing else. I feel like somewhere around the later 2000's as a culture we became less, I don't know, tolerable to egotists and shallow people who survive solely on their physical looks and status? We still do the same thing, except instead of Paris Hilton or Jersey Shore it's instagram and tiktok stars dolling themselves up and measuring their worth entirely based on superficial qualities and it's weird to me. People become famous because they can do makeup, or lip-sync to songs. When did we stop looking at ego as a negative trait?

    It also seems, I dunno, super unhealthy? And I've witnessed this all first-hand. Not going to be specific so as to not inadvertently call them out, but I closely knew someone who was very into social media and presenting themselves out there to be adored. They were quite emotionally unstable and self-deprecating, and any time I offered earnest personal support and compliments it was refuted. But likes from strangers who literally only know them from their appearance? That they appreciated. I'm not sure if it's chicken or the egg, because I didn't know them prior to their online presence, but this person craved attention and validation from people who didn't personally know them but acted as if they were super humble and self-loathing to the people who did. It was interesting to say the least and I never did figure out why, but I see their exact behaviour and emotional state mirrored elsewhere: desperate to satisfy their narcissism yet denying they have it.

    Like I said, obviously not everyone who uses social media is like this, but it's the people who can't separate themselves from it who become this way.
     
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    No. We've already had a psychological need for validation and acknowledgement. We didn't develop that need through psychological dependency of a service/platform to express ourselves, but we've always had a psychological dependency of others to give us this validation/acknowledgement well before social media ever existed. We've always had a means to express ourselves. It is apparent with human behavior throughout the ages, and the engines that have allowed us to have always been there. .

    Social media takes that "need" and gives us another engine to do so, but since it's also an "easier" platform from which you can do it, it also exacerbates it by some means of exploitation of this desire because it's "easier. And social media is making people aware of it now (again, if you take a step back and reflect on it). But again, it isn't anything new. Before you had to work for it in different ways and then do enough to be noticed in something like the newspapers, or the TV. Now...you just make a post on social media, and if your "content" is viewed and people "like" it, wa-la. Like I said, treat it as a social experiment (or a series of). See what you find.

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    And I don't say "exploit" as a bad thing. There are plenty of things out there that we use that exploit us. Take your smart phone for example. Another "easier" way to communicate with each other.
     
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    social media's more of a boon to society at large than the nihilists would have you believe, but it is still easily made toxic and usually through shit we cause.

    i mostly use TFW. i use facebook to occasionally post something about the economy or message people, i use instagram to absolutely waste time, and i use snapchat to keep up with people i actually wanna talk to.

    i stopped using facebook as much because i realized the people i wanted to talk to weren't updating as much as all the rich preppy kids from high school whose personality was still being rich and preppy were. it was/is bumming me out to see people my age being literally given houses and getting degrees on their parents dime when lots of people are barely scraping by and are three times the workers most of these people are.

    that's not a shit on my generation, just that Oklahoma in general is very... rich/poor divide and there's lots of people who wanted to *act* like they were down for changing the world but then graduated and realized it's easier to keep letting people take care of you instead.

    you also can't look at the influencers. granted, they try to shove them down your face all the time, but at this point i've learned if you're below 25 and flexing about your house/car/paid off degree/gajillion followers... well, they usually don't flex how hard they didn't work to get there.
     
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  8. SPLIT LIP

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    As for the rest of your post, like you literally just said what I said. People have always had that want for validation, but social media has turned it into an instant gratification. Like you said, used to be you had to work to achieve it, but now it's easier. The easier something is, the more you can do it, the more it becomes all you want to do. Without that difficulty or effort it used to take people have let it take over their lives rather than moderate it in any way. People have built a dependency on social media because it hasn't always been around, and that validation hasn't always been that easy to achieve.
     
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    Not particularly. I only use Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram (and Youtube if you count that, but I only really use it for watching videos, not interacting with people). I do have kind of a love-hate relationship with it in general... except for Twitter, that's just pure unbridled hatred. The world would quickly become a slightly better place if Twitter just shut down. Social media in general has a tendency to bring out the worst in people, but Twitter is the only one that's uniquely engineered specifically to do that.
     
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    You're not getting the point. The dependency has always been there. That dependency is actually with other people. That's what is has been. That's what it will always be unless you decide to just make yourself a recluse or if you're one that truly doesn't give a flying fuck what other people think. "Dependency" is the state of needing something or someone. Do you need Social Media? No. But one can argue that they feel they do. Can you do without it? You sure as hell can, but only if you want to. Do you need someone? Yes and no. It depends on what's going on and what you're trying to do. To say that one "developed" a dependency on an engine that allows you to accomplish the same thing that other engines that produce the same result is just a reason to justify or highlight someone's choice. Because that's what it really is isn't it? A choice. Instead of working maybe a little harder to achieve some desired result, you take the easy route instead.

    Take for example the bit about communication I gave. You can easily just go to your friends house to talk to them, right? Because you need someone to communicate something with. But instead of taking the bus, driving, or even walking over there you decided to use a smart phone and send a text instead. Or even if this was the 1980s, you picked up your phone and you called them. Did you have a dependency with the phone? Or did you merely just choose to use the phone instead of doing something else to achieve the same result of communicating with someone? Someone with whom without them, you could not communicate. Think about that for a second.
     
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    I have Facebook to stay in touch with family and friends, my list is very small and limited. It is the only such app on my phone and I have just about EVERY notifications for all apps turned off, with messenger and text being pretty much the only ones that are still active as those are for when people actually are communicating to me personally.

    Oddly enough I work in the internet front and have managed hundreds of international sites and even lately was in charge of the corp. Twitter account, and yet, I don't care whatsoever about such things.

    I see all social media to be tools, and useful to stay in touch with people, and get information of events, situations and such. It can have some entertainment value, but overall, there's already other venues for those.

    But everything else is pretty much a cancer, and every time I hear about "influencers" I wish a meteor would crash down on them, and all of their "followers" that are feeding this degeneration of the human race. They prove that people are sheeps, and have a need to feel important to be of "value". The rate of suicide over such things is high and again, proof that overall, it's fairly out of control as people have no identity outside of this "social media"... heck, it seem that I hear about such "influencers" killing themselves on a regular basis.

    So overwhelmed? nah, not whatsoever... you control your access to it and life would continue should the internet disappear overnight, especially social media. There is nothing to stop you from closing your accounts, removing the apps, and just live your life.

    Whenever someone starts about it's "importance" (as in day to day function), my response is to tell them to go on a deserted island/lost in forest, etc. and survive for a few months, then maybe they'll understand what's really important in life and not some idiot stranger somewhere lost in the world with a stupid opinion over a 1st world problem.

    But the simplest thing to do for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the "dinging" of their phone, hold your finger on that notification and disable them.
     
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    Just so you know... both of you are saying the same thing.

    Social media feeds those that "need" for instant-gratification, to feel important, like they matter, etc. Sadly, it's in a bad way as it's an illusion, as the moment they go away, their "followers" will sheep to the next "best thing" and they will be forgotten.

    Before the internet, you'd get the "bullies" (and similar behaviors) that would try to be important in their limited environment, those that would do whatever could be done within their capacity to achieve "popularity" or fame.

    Sadly, with time, this behavior has been associated with mental illness with good reason. With the internet making it "instant", the polarity of how fast such a person reaches highs and lows is increased exponentially. Hence the high suicide rate...
     
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    Here's the solution: turn off your notifications (isn't that what everyone does the moment they set up a new phone anyway?) and don't check your socials as often. Easy.
     
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    Perhaps I'm not articulating my point well enough to differentiate between what I'm getting at, and what he and yourself are saying. And that's fine. Don't get me wrong. I understand what you both are saying completely. I can definitely see a correlation of social media use and the dependency that people see. I use to be of the same thought. However, have you ever thought about it in terms of just a simple math equation? You will have yourself and the people you need for that validation (or communication). And you will also have the variable, which is something we choose as that engine, or medium to acquire that validation. In terms of what we're talking about here, it would almost seem to me that folks are ignoring or not even placing the proper value into the other person(s), but instead elevating the value of the variable, in this case social media. Ok, so let's take out that "other person(s)." What are we left with? Yourself and social media. At this point, what value does social media have in terms of acquiring that validation? Absolutely nothing. The same can be said of communicating. If you have no one to talk to, does the phone have any value in communicating with anyone? It does not. Because there's no one on the other end. You need that other person(s). Achieving that goal of communication or validation or whatever is solely and has always been dependent on having that other person(s) there. Psychologically, we know this. Psychologically, we depend on other people for this validation/communication to occur.

    To me, it's not about the tool that we choose to use, but rather the people involved that we need to have involved. It holds accountable the choices we make regardless of whatever we use to achieve our goal because in the end it is all about the choices we make. In this case, it's highly dependent on other people reacting to what we're doing. Social media, the newspaper, the nightly news, etc are just a means to an end. That's the variable. We are the constant. I only say this because lately, I've noticed more and more that there are people out there who choose to use other means aside from social media for said validation. Apparently, there are more than I thought there was, and there's probably even more that I don't know about. And it made me think about things a bit. We've somehow blinded ourselves to think that social media is where it's at and that "everyone" is using it and that that is where everything happens and everyone is, when that isn't the case. It's popular, yeah. A lot of people are using it. Yeah. All undeniable facts. Again, I can see where you're coming from, but from my perspective...things are different.
     
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    Read my post again, I did mention what you're saying.... That take away social media and people will still look for a way to get the attention. Trouble is, social media is a "n" factor as it multiplies that need for attention at a worldwide scale, and why I already stated the mental health issues involved.
     
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    @Dark Skull I am very well aware of a humans need for social acceptance and acknowledgement. We are social creatures and it had always been a part of our nature. I did not make that clear in my post as it was just a quickly written shit on social media as a whole. You are right, but I also never really said anything otherwise.


    As for @SPLIT LIP, you were more on point with what that sentence was referring to. The needs to be acknowledged, accepted, and feel a part of a group has always been a part of our nature, but social media gives us the ability to a do on a much larger level, and as we are not perfect animals, tend to have an issue with that sort of thing, and it can spiral out of control.


    When I post something, I people to like it because when they do, my brain releasing serotonin and it feels good, but that can seriously devolve into a huge issue which can be an addiction. My post was moreso a shot at the negative impacts social media can cause that we might not see the extremity of in the moment.
     
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    I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I thought that one of the worst things they could have done to this site was to introduce the "likes" feature several years ago. It added an element of pandering for cheap likes; mindlessly agreeing with people without articulating their thoughts, posting witty gifs, emojis, memes, photos of animals, etc.

    It's funny- the whole likes thing reminds me of a Star Trek: TNG episode titled "the Game" where a device brought onboard (as part of a nefarious takeover plot) would release serotonin to the brain as a reward for mentally putting discs into a tube placing the user into an almost orgasmic state leading to eventual addiction. When we get "likes" the brain releasing serotonin is akin to this game, but on a lesser scale.

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    People are just whelmed. The 13 year old just has a poor vocabulary. Whelmed and overwhelmed are synonymous.
     
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