Netflix plans a He-Man cartoon

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    Sorry but I disagree. He-Man was throughout the movie. But I do agree that the teens were in part there to reduce the cost of making the film. That is also why 90% of the movie took place on Earth.

    Ironically despite all that the movie still got shut down before it was finished. Which is why, if I recall correctly, the final battle took place in the director's garage.
     
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    He was there but that's not really the same as having focus.

    Which reminds me of yet another movie, E.T. The Extraterrestrial. E.T. is on the posters. The movie is about him. But the focus is on Elliot nearly all of the time, and it's Elliot's perspective the movie follows.
     
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    100%. The big emotional reward for that movie is Julie saving her parents from dying, not Skeletor falling in a hole.
     
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    Guess what I predicted for the second season is true. Kevin Smith did a podcast that says that Part 2 is pretty much Evil-Lyn's story, much the same way as Part 1 was Teela's.


    My money is still on Teela becoming the new protector of Eternia using the power sword, and Evil-Lyn betrays Skeletor and becomes the new Sorceress. I mean even if Teela is her daughter, she was never taught magic, never used it, she has been a warrior all her life. I just can't see her becoming the Sorceress because it is hereditary or something. Would make more sense for a mage like Evil-Lyn to become her successor, maybe that is why she turned to her in the first place.

    1: Not really, 'cause Rottentomatoes happens to be far more full of the 5/5 "this is all my childhood all over again, everything I ever wanted!" reviews, which RT pushes to the front page cleverly. Unlike IMDB it does not have a "helpfulness" vote system.
    2: I went through of 4 pages of reviews on IMDB (in this heat, hard to sleep) and only saw like 2 duplicates (and reported them). Trust me I know what the bot-written reviews are, they only change the title slightly and submit the same text, I seen plenty when I checked reviews for shows and movies far worse hated than this one. No, these seem really genuine.
    It takes too much effort to set up 50 alt accounts and review bomb something, not something every disgruntled fan will ever do.
    3:The campaign happened because Kevin Smith kept attacking those who simply posted their insider information on twitter without mentioning or tagging him. That'd be like if John Warden came here and started attacking people in the leak topics in News and Rumors saying they are full of **** and what they say is untrue. Attacking someone gets you attacked in response, that must be one of the rules of the internet.
     
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    I do not see this happening at all.
     
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    I don't think you're really being fair here when you cut up my comment to omit the point about the trailers content and then say "base their entire expectations on the Netflix thumbnail and what they vaguely remember from childhood" I didn't say people were doing that and that's just hacking up my comments to change the context.
     
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    Problem is that a lot of those "leaks" were heavily slanted and politically charged. They can be based in part on info that's technically accurate, and still be misleading in terms of the bigger picture or the intent of the writers. It seems clear to me that from Smith's perspective, that's what happened here. He's done an especially poor job responding to it in my opinion, but when the discourse is already stripped of nuance and the atmosphere is "torches and pitchforks" even a wiser response would be ineffective.

    My point about RT scores is that when fandoms (or parts of fandoms) get whipped up into a frenzy about something, they aren't accurate gauges of popularity. Otherwise Transformers and Star Wars would both be dead IPs long before now.
     
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    I don't think that changes the argument at all. The issue is who will be actively following along and paying attention, and who will be just seeing trailers and posters?
     
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    It’s sad but true. Fantasy basically died a slow death after LOTR. Remember the Conan the Barbarian remake, or John Carter (IMHO more fantasy than sci-fi)? Somehow it is not as popular, and low-Fantasy that’s more grounded in reality, like Game of Thrones, took its place. Heck, even the rebooted She-Ra made the sword and her powers be alien technology, not magic.
     
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    Quick question to those who have watched it.
    Any sign of a DreamWorks logo anywhere, be it in the credits or such?
     
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    The source was not HIS podcast, that was a closed event that you had to pay to attend. The source was a review of it and it is too political IE I cannot link it as it would break the rules the mods have set. ;)  Sorry I could have worded it better.


    They had nothing to do with this, the credits only have Mattel, Netflix Animation and Powerhouse Studios
    guess you never saw the 2002 show? Ram-Man is the Grimlock/Animated Bulkhead of that show. He is huge, strong and not that smart, but has a good heart. And he was so well armored he could basically walk through walls. I never understood why people hated him until I saw the 1983 version...
    Mekaneck was always rather useless but the 2002 show even made an episode about him wanting to get a more useful power and unleashing an evil sorcerer in the process, and learning to use his ability to save the day. Also, his neck could stretch and entangle people like a snake, not just extend. In season 2 he got turned into a snake-man and was quite dangerous in that form.

    LoooL that was comedy gold. And he even makes Teela disappear at the end!
     
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    I would argue that fantasy continues to get produced but it's simply splintered off into different directions. Narnia constantly gets remade. His Dark Materials is on HBO. We had a long run of Adventure Time. The Witcher and Shadow and Bone are on Netflix. LOTR is just one type of fantasy and I think you don't get anything similar to it because no one wants to be labeled a Tolkien-Wannabe. I mean, Shannara might be the closest thing to LOTR but it has a history of being called a watered down LOTR.

    I would argue that LOTR style High Fantasy is costlier to make and has a higher risk involved because audiences might not be interested in the genre or they might label the project as too derivative. It's a tough market IMO.
     
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    As mentioned, DreamWorks did not adapt this show.

    You may be thinking of She-Ra, which was a DreamWorks production.

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    John Carter is a very relevant example too, as the novels it was based on are perhaps a much closer template and influence for MOTU than the more obvious Conan books.
    Oh, I did, but if we're expecting Revelation to be anything at all like the Filmation series...
     
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    No. I'm asking because Scott "ToyGuru" Neitlich made the claim that this and the 3D series are from DreamWorks. Which I refuted.
    Me: 1
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    What argument, are we arguing? I'll admit I'm annoyed that you tweaked my comment to omit a detail. But otherwise I don't see how both our statements can't be true.

    Being 100% honestly I've got zero clue who these "real fans" are you're talking about are. I can speculate for sure but being so vague I don't want to go and make anything that could come off as a no true Scotsman comment talking about a fan base I don't know a great deal about.
     
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    Yeah. They've pretty much been making it a point to show that Adam and Teela are a good team. By the end of it, she's probably going to get her own transformation, and be able to fight side by side with He-Man on equal footing.
     
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    I want to say in Asia it's maybe stronger. Particularly in anime and manga things like Goblin Hunter were very popular but I really don't know the point between high and low fantasy is.
     
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    Ah I see why we differ there. I don’t consider shows like these in the fantasy category, more in the YA category. I mean I have a hard time calling Twilight a fantasy just because it has vampires, for example.
    The time of the grandiouse sword & sorcery movies seems to have passed, just look at what the latest King Arthur movie was like! It’s why I am looking forward to The Green Knight since it feels like an 80ies fantasy. Back then, a movie like this came out like, every month almost.
    The Witcher is more low fantasy, the occasional monster aside. I know little about Shannara, tried to watch it but it really did not appeal to me much.

    Low fantasy is like, well, Game of Thrones. Sure this is not Earth, and there are dragons and zombies, but if you watched most episodes it could be some mediaval drama of royalty playing political games and waging wars.
    High fantasy usually has several other races aside humans, and magic and monsters are commonplace. Goblin Slayer is a good example of that.
     
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    not reading any of the leaks I assumed when the sword split in two that that was totally the path they were going down with both of them being able to become he-people at the same time. I guess it can still happen, I kinda hope it does I'm a sucker for a well made transformation sequence.
     
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