MOTU Masterverse Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'The Toyark' started by Shin Densetsu, May 14, 2021.

  1. Hicks_Royel

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    I just think that maybe until the audience sees them do more than smile at each other, there's no reason to try and shoehorn those assumptions into their relationship. I mean, I guess they held hands once but that's still not a definitive, "ah-hah, we knew it! We're on to your game, Netflix..."
     
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    In all fairness though how many shows/movies have you seen where, if there was a strong man and a woman in it, it had to end with them as a couple?
     
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    You mean like, say, the ongoing relationship between HeMan and Teela?
     
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    I dunno, we have had lots of shows with multiple strong male leads and any romance between them is strictly in the darkness of the webs/shipping stuff, so to speak.
     
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    That's why I said it was ambiguous and they seemed to be trying to walk a line to appease two different audiences. I was thinking "we'll see how the last five episodes play out" but that's what they want you to think. Here's the thing...media has always been somewhat speculative but it's the nature of that speculation that's changed. They used to show a trailer and you'd speculate that it'd be funny/exciting/whatever. Now it seems like you're lured in with a classic property and speculating that you won't be outraged at the conclusion. It becomes less of a joke where the punchline didn't deliver and more like "fooled you! no refunds!"

    And I'll be upfront here: I don't know where I would take a _continuation_ of MOTU or most other classic properties. I'd be more inclined to just make more episodes that fit somewhere in the middle. I dread movies or series finales that send everybody off in separate directions, especially when they do it in ways that are permanent like somebody dying.

    The majority of which was in a cartoon from 1983.
     
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    Feel the same. There’s so much good stuff out right now not to mention all the retro stuff getting rereleased.
     
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    Snake Armor is barbarian though. And he has a loincloth.

    We definitely both agree that it's a great design.
     
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  9. Hicks_Royel

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    I don't know. I still say that there was no ambiguity in the relationship between Teela and Andra. There's no reason to dig any deeper than seeing two business partners.

    I think the single biggest flaw this series had was being promoted as picking up right where the cartoon of the 80's left off. And, I think, the flaw of some of the audience was believing that lie when the very style of the artwork suggested otherwise.

    [I do find it a bit ironic how some people think Teela overreacted and was entirely out of character to the single worst day of her life and then go on long winded youtube rants about how Kevin Smith was out to betray them from the beginning. But maybe that is in character for them and they aren't overreacting to a cartoon, what do I know?]

    And this gets back to the "picking up from original series". There was no need to try and do a continuation. They could have called this Masters of the Universe: Revelations and said, "hey, they is a whole new approach to the lore" and probably kept a lot of the grief off themselves. They didn't do that and that is, I agree, on them but folks have to believe the lie to genuinely feel betrayed by it.

    The five part, [should've just been a two hour long movie] series wasn't terrible. It wasn't great and it wasn't a picking it up the next day from November 1985 but it's not a complete dishonor to everything that came before it in the franchise. That title is probably still held by The New Adventures and Courtney Cox's grieving of lost parents. Yes, they "killed off some characters" but who's to say those are permanent? Especially with the three characters they chose.

    That all said, this all fiction and no one is forcing anyone else to accept it as canon with their own perspective of MotU lore. You want Teela and HeMan to ride off into the sunset together, you have them do that. You want Skeletor to win, that's your business. At the end of the day, what Netflix streams really has no more merit on what you choose to accept as good enough for your HeMan science fantasy than a photo comic fanfiction posted on these very boards.

    I mean, just look at the shit going on in my MotU reality:
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    Cool, so is the exclusivity over (I thought it was until the end of the month) or just premature stocking and you can't actually buy them yet?
     
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    Wow, just discovered this thread. Kind of surprised because Toyark can really use the traffic.

    Kind of in a fun boat right now, doing a re-watch of the Filmation after decades (and enjoying it far more than expected). I binge watched all five episodes of the new show. There are things I liked, and things I would have done different (having an episode count higher than 10 would have been a huge help). Yeah, the picking up where the Filmation show left off was a bad idea. Scott Neitlich even confirmed they do not have the rights to the Filmation show (that's Universal). The one thing that directly impacts the new show (so far) was changing Robot's origin to being made by Duncan, and not being an alien. Edit: also forgot that they depcted Orko as a failure for a Trollin, even though in the Filmation show, when on Trolla his magic was so impressive, they called him Orko 'the Great'.

    I did like the idea of depicting the 'classic' era of making everything more toy accurate. Even the trapdoor and net in Snake Mountain.
     
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    No, it wasn't terrible (that's the WFC series). I thought it would've done better as a DTV movie too. DC does those where some of them fit together and others don't.
     
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    To keep it brief and bring some positivity back. I loved the five episodes, granted I’m not the biggest fan of the original Filmation cartoon (much prefer the 200X and the comics) but I can still appreciate it and have fun with it. So anyway I’m excited for future Revelations figures. The next wave looks awesome with Teela and Duncan being my favorite design wise. Excited to have preordered Scareglow after Tony Todd’s amazing portrayal of the character. (Seriously this show made Scareglow one of my top five MOTU characters).

    I’m honestly really excited to see who else they have down the pipeline I’d love to see Sorceress, Tri-Klops, Andra, Roboto, He-Ro (hell just give me as many Pre-Eternia characters as possible), and especially Orko.

    Also Prince Adam, I’ve never been a big fan of Adam just being He-Man but with a different toned voice and clothing change like the original Filmation cartoon and toy. I like the smaller Adam becoming this muscular superhero like in 200X and this series so I’d love to see that done in the Masterverse toyline.
     
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    My favorite thing about the 2002 series had to be the intro. They start off with the traditional narrated opening from Adam ripped straight from the original series and then take a hard left. It was a perfect way to start of the series and let everyone know that this was not going to be a rehash of the 80s series.
    "I am Adam, Prince of Eternia, Defender of the secrets of Castle Grayskull. This is Cringer, my fearless friend. Fabulo.."
    BOOM!
    Explosions!
    Punching!
    Excitement?
     
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    You explosion, laugh, guitar riffs?

    Yeah, as I have said repeatedly, whoever decided this needed to be cut up into five 24 or so minute episodes really dropped the ball. It's like the only way they knew how to signal a dramatic moment was to cut to credits.
     
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    I should clarify my loin cloth disdain lol, I mean that furry dead animal around the waist look, which is why I don't like most He-Man designs, where as Skeletor has that gladiator style loin cloth, those I don't mind, just the furry ones look bad to me
     
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    What drew me to the series as a kid was the sword and sorcery, furry shorts barbarian element. I liked to think of Eternia as having had a few apocalyptic events in its time, and is kind of in a post apocalyptic re-building civilization period from a more 'savage age'.
     
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