This is the first synopsis of the show. When it was announced. It’s been posted. A lot. Revelation is a direct sequel series to the original series Masters of the Universe. Featuring He-Man, Teela, Orko, Cringer, and Man-At-Arms, the story features them as guardians of Castle Grayskull in a battle against Skeletor, Evil-Lyn, Beast-Man and the legions of Snake Mountain. But after a final battle forever fractures Eternia, it's up to Teela to solve the mystery of the missing Sword of Power in a race against time to prevent the end of the Universe. Her journey will uncover the secrets of Grayskull at last.
For those who want to take a trip down memory lane ... The only difference is my show was on ice lol. THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE POWER TOUR: ARTICLES AND EXTERNAL LINKS Who is this guy supposed to be?
from what I understand, an insider tipped them off about what was going to happen in the show with He-Man and Teela. And when they voiced their concerns, they were called out as liars. And when the show came out, it was revealed that they were right, and Smith lied about it. Also, despite this, they constantly admitted that they hoped what they heard was wrong and that the show would be good. he then continued to change his story and even went as far as first attacking them without saying their name, but then just flat out calling them out by name. Because they wound up being right about what they heard.
I've gone through the Rottentomatoes audience ratings and my issue with the low audience score is that most negative audience reviews left are 0.5 star reviews that don't go beyond one sentence, usually voicing that they didn't like the direction of the Revelation story. So quite a lot of people are purposefully putting the lowest possible score based on their opposition to Revelation, not their genuine analysis of the series through the lens of critical review. With a score rating system based on ranking something 0.5 to 5, when the majority of people who put either 0.5 or 5 star ratings based on their feelings of Revelation rather than a critical review of the episodes, the results are not accurate. A person could certainly hate Revelation but still say it's a 2 out of 5. Instead, a lot of people are arbitrarily putting a 0.5 or 1 star rating because they are using "I hate this thing." as the basis, if not the entirety, of their "review" and score. I don't expect audience scores to be approached with a professional reviewer mentality like a Siskel and Ebert of yesteryear but any person who actually goes through the audience reviews of Revelation can clearly see that there is a glut of 0.5 and 1 star reviews that are put there in bad faith. This isn't to say there aren't any genuine 0.5 or 1 star ratings but those are the ones where people actually go into providing a review of Revelation without insulting people or communicating with hyperbole. These are few and far between. The vast majority of 0.5/1 star ratings are "Not good. He-Man's barely in it." kind of "reviews". I personally give Revelation a 2.5 to 3 out of 5 for the average person. There's too much insider knowledge to be privy to for a person unknowledgeable about MotU to really appreciate. The story itself is not revolutionary or particularly innovative. It's a standard hero's journey formula. From a story design standpoint, it's "safe" in that it doesn't do anything unorthodox. The animation quality is excellent, the art direction is aesthetically pleasing. The score is subtle and does its job without stepping on anyone's toes. As a fan of MotU who isn't offended by He-Man not being the main protagonist, I give Revelation a 3.5 to 4 at most out of 5. I enjoyed it, loved all the nods to various MotU lore. I still have issues, however, with certain narrative decisions and because of that, on a technical level, I could never go beyond an 80% for Revelation, even though I'm a fan of MotU. As one of the audience scorers who gave Revelation a 2.5 out of 5 says in his written out review "It's not the worst thing ever and it's not a masterpiece." and that "This is the most middle of the road show I've seen in a long time.". This is the kind of reaction I suspect most people with no bias for MotU in the general audience to display.
Yeah, it's very much like the Bay films in that if you aren't a huge fan it's just a very mediocre story.
I’ll just say we can’t really discuss clownfish. I just looked at their most recent upload and it tells me everything I need to know. Disgusting.
Yeah, exactly. The double edged sword of things like adaptations is that most people are going to say "It's okay. I don't regret watching it." while fans of the source material are either going to love it or hate it with little in between because of emotional connection. Heck, I find 5 star ratings on Revelations Rottentomatoes dubious because while I'm not going to disagree with them, I can't believe that it's a "perfect" piece of entertainment. I mean, truly, is there actually a true 5 star movie or show? One that has NO flaws? Not only that, does it transcend the medium? The genre? Maybe I missed it but I've never heard of such a thing. That's the only way I can conceivably say something is a 5 star, 100%, perfect piece of work.
Took a look as well and...yeahhh. Looks like another typical bad faith outrage channel, complete with clickbait titles and ridiculous thumbnails. YouTube is infested with those.
Yeah, the mods even mentioned that during one of the last scrubs of this thread not to bring up YouTube reviewer stuff. I'm only bringing this up because I appreciate the civil discussions being had here and would prefer the thread not get locked until the second part comes out. Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed it but realistically if I were to actually score it on RT I'd probably put a 3 I think. It was pretty middle of the road for me personally. There's a lot I like, but there are enough problems with it that it's far from perfect.
It's absolutely review bombing. Not a practice I approve of. Curiously, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power didn't elicit a similar a response despite the opposition I've seen the series receive online. I kind of wonder what the difference is in this scenario...? Eh, that's skirting dangerously close to off-site drama, so best to leave it at that, I suppose.
Roughly a 10-15 years ago i recall spending some time on IMDB and noticing scores on films seeming to be "unnatural". I later found out why so i won't debate whether review bombing is taking place or not because i've been on the other side of that alleged activity. With that said ...do you think making Teela the focus of the show thus far was a good business decision for Mattel / Netflix? This could very well be something akin to PT Barnums maxim that "all attention is good attention". Perhaps the divide itself will drum up new interest in the IP. Would this creative direction be worth it if the brand tanks solely to be able to say " Well ...we tried something different from a creative perspective."?
Or it could just be the story? I also found this stupid article from 8 years ago. 12 Insane Facts About He-Man And The Masters Of The Universe 4) He-Man's Pal Teela Is More Important Than He-Man. He-Man was of course the most powerful man in the universe, but arguably the Sorceress — the person responsible for giving Prince Adam the Sword of Power and protecting the secrets of Castle Grayskull — is even more important, given that He-Man wouldn't exist without her. And the Sorceress' successor is none other than her daughter, Prince Adam's female friend Teela (one of two female MotU action figures). She has a variety of origins based on the various cartoons and comics, but whether she's a daughter by birth or a magical clone, she's still next in line to be Sorceress. Sometimes the character Man-at-Arms is her real father, sometimes her adopted father; in the 2002 cartoon her dad may have been the character ridiculously named Fisto. In the most recent toyline canon, the Sorceress is eventually killed by King Hiss of the Snake-Men and Teela becomes the Sorceress for real.
I think this was my point from the get go. Whether or not I find them disgusting also, I still listen to the information and see if what they say is accurate. And I’m this case, as much as I hate what their angle is, their insider was right. we live in this society now where everyone is on one side or the other. Claiming people are “mad about perceived social issues” is a disguise to say you support those same issues. I support them too, but I’m not going to deny they are in the shows we like now. It’s reality. we need to all, collectively, stop ignoring the information just because we “are against” the source. It’s ok to just open our ears and hear what everyone is saying, and then move on with our lives. the current social push is to promote female leads and empower young girls. I 100% understand and support it. It’s unfortunate that it comes at the expense of ruining male characters and leads. That’s just how much of the product is sold. I blame marketing (always hated marketing haha) and poor writing. Like I said before, clone wars has awesome female characters that are written well. in this case, the writers just flat out kinda sucked. It’s ok, you can’t all be the best. If they are able to improve it the show can definitely I rely be good. The first season of rebels was so boring same with clone wars but it got better as the writing improved. Clownfish represents that part of our society that pushes against the Social issue movement. Anyone can see that. They believe they are right. You and I and every single person believes their stance is right. that’s how this all works. There is no winning side, it’s just support what you like and not the rest. I’m not going to ignore the fact their insider had accurate information and the show turned out kind of a flop. Oh well, we’ve seen it over and over now over the past 20 years it happens. I’m ok with seeing where the show goes, but I also will always respect the fact that whoever disagrees with me as built their belief system off of their experiences just like me. They’re just different
>"mods said that we cannot discuss X" >proceed to discuss X >mods: lock thread >posters: surprised pikachu face.
Whether or not "review bombing" has/is taking place for Revelation is something I don't know for a fact. I only know that by literally spending several hours of reading through the audience ratings at Rottentomatoes, that the majority of reviews are either 0.5/1 or 5. That makes the resulting score highly dubious in reflecting actual general audience experience. As of this moment, 2409 audience ratings are on Rottentomatoes. I'm sure tens of thousands of people, probably over a hundred thousand, have watched Revelation by now globally. That's potentially 2.4% or less of the total population of actual viewers of the series. Now from that 2.4 thousand audience ratings, the majority are suspiciously high or low ratings. So when you see, in large bold text, the percentage of approval or disapproval for Revelation, you don't tend to look at the small text that says 2409 ratings and then consider that number is out of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. This is what I mean when I have an issue of the audience rating situation of Revelation, and many other shows/movies on review sites like Rottentomatoes. Now with regards about what I think about making Teela the focus of the show...I think that on paper, it's a great idea. Like it or not, Teela was always a person with an important destiny. In the vintage mini comics, she was a clone of The Sorceress, made by Skeletor in order to gain access to Castle Grayskull. In Filmation, she was The Sorceress' daughter, which was revisited in 200x. So to me, I don't think choosing Teela as the main protagonist for Revelation was a problem at all. The problem with Revelation, ultimately, is poor execution. From the marketing campaign, which made some statements that mislead most people's expectations, to the finalized and approved scripts that made Randor look irrationally harsh with Man-At-Arms and Teela hold her grudge too long and hard, the way that Revelation was ultimately presented as a finished product had stumbles. I think that any time you revisit a brand with a long history, you play with fire. You can't avoid that. But you can mitigate how much you stoke that fire. I think the team behind Revelation at Netflix failed in that area. I don't think the fallout, whatever there is of it, from Revelation's debut will harm MotU's bottom line unless the executives at Mattel give weight to social media clamor and react to it and cancel or downsize future plans for MotU, which is highly unlikely considering the money they've invested and the money they can still make from the brand. As much as certain individuals voice their opposition of Revelation, they normally specify they don't like Revelation. They don't say they are giving up on MotU, just that they don't like what Kevin Smith and Netflix have done with Revelation. So even the most angry people aren't saying "F--- MotU!", they're saying "F--- Kevin Smith and Netflix!". Honestly, I think the attention/publicity this is bringing to Revelation will be more likely to be a win for Mattel and Netflix. Most people aren't going to be "Revelation is hot garbage!" or "My life was changed forever for the better because of Revelation!". They're going to say "It wasn't as bad or great as some people said. This is interesting. What else has been done with MotU?" and they'll look into the previous incarnations of MotU, potentially gaining new customers for the brand.
Sorry about that, I can just delete it out if they need. Hard to discuss the show with, well, discussing the show? I don’t mean that as a joke, I was trying to I guess give thoughts but also explain my own. I can edit out if it crossed over into the no go area.
