If people prefer so, I'm totally OK with having a separate thread for discussing everything regarding part 2. Spoiler Yeah, they absolutely have to show Adam reuniting with his parents. This might sound strange, but while I hate that He-Man died, I love the way he died. As you said, it was absolutely heroic, in a way only the greatest of the heroes can be. My biggest fear for this series was that they might make He-Man the one to blame for the catastrophe, but instead they kept him a hero.
The way I see it, if you see Revelation as a single story, He-Man doesn't have to be in every episode. Plus there's a risk of him overshadowing the other characters. The idea of him being 'lost', and it's consequences, is an interesting one. Yes, He-Man is an important part of MOTU, but the MOTU is more than He-Man. I don't mind other characters getting a chance to shine, now and then. As for Teela, who would be the most suitable main protagonist for Part 1 in He-Man's absence? Teela is (imo) is a pretty good candidate, minus a few tantrums and a haircut (IMO ). I mean, she one was of his closest companions, and probably the one with the greatest potential as a character. Yes, they made a few choices that I might not have made but I'd like to see the whole story, before fully making up my mind about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Part 2 turns out to be be more about He-Man than the first. In one way or another.
Kevin Smith was a poser in the 90s and he is a poser today. Revelations was made to spite the old fans.
Yeah, for me, it's not so much about what is done but how it is done. I don't disregard other peoples' desire to have more He-Man in Revelation but I'd rather the character be elevated in death than be kept around simply to be around. The character of He-Man is quite simplistic. His portrayal in Revelation adds a facet of heroism that is rarely, if ever, explored with the character. In Masters of the Multiverse, numerous He-Men are killed off wantonly. I understand the reasoning, but talk about putting a character and its incarnations through a wood chipper with not much narrative pay off. I'm glad that Revelation didn't diminish He-Man, through characters turning on him (aside from Teela's reaction to his death, which is one of my criticisms) as you noted as your biggest fear for the series.
I watched the first 2 episodes and I don't know if I plan on finishing it. There are things about the story that I find interesting but overall I find myself saying "wut?" every few minutes. There is a lot of weak writing in there especially regarding characterizations. I feel like the writing crew on this took a glance at some of the footnotes on characters and then said "ah, screw it, i'll make it up as I go." And I'm sorry but Teela is killing me. She's overly butch and every time Sarah Michelle Gellar's little voice comes out of that burly chick, I horse laugh. I'm glad there are a lot of people who love it to counteract those of us who hate it but for me personally it just isn't what I want from the franchise and since I already know everything that happens by episode 5, I think I'll pass.
I'm actually surprised there's not more backlash towards the Masters of the Multiverse comic. I can only assume that people either haven't read it yet or don't know that it even exists.
Has anyone made a YouTube video telling them to be mad, yet? If not, there's the answer. Sheep gonna flock.
That is not a lie. Read what the man said. He-Man does not “step aside.” STEP ASIDE withdraw or resign from an important position or office. He-Man died he doesn’t “step aside.” And even dead he’s not out of the show and IT’S THE FIRST HALF OF THE SHOW. And ClownfishTV and those other assholes did misrepresent the show because Adam doesn’t “step aside” for Teela and Andra, because they’re better heroes, that’s not the plot. And he is right maybe everyone should calm the fuck down and wait till it’s over. We’re halfway through a very predictable and routine melodrama of putting our heroes in danger and then having them win against all odds. Death you say? Wait is Adam going to die this time? He really dies? For really reals!?!? OMG!!! The show picks up right off the themes and finishes plot holes directly from Filmation. No one wants a straight up Filmation story. Well maybe I do ‘cause I like what James Eatock does but it’s a curiosity NOT a great show in ‘21. It’s a direct thematic continuation of Filmation, you don’t need to know 200x, you don’t need to know the Classics biocards, If the last thing you knew and remembered was Filmation it’s perfect. You’re halfway through a show. I have yet to see anything Smith lied about. Confusing statements yes. Intentionally misinterpreted by the worst people on the entertainment internet yes.
You’re playing semantics and you know it. Everyone who read that conversation can tell that they were not discussing a withdrawal from his position, but the writers removing He-man by one means or another. we can play lawyer speak all we want, but that’s not how people communicate day to day. intent is what is important here.
On paper, I'm personally all for Teela being a main protagonist in MotU. It has to be well done, though, and there are flaws, unfortunately, with how it has been executed in Revelation. As the daughter of The Sorceress, Teela has far more narrative importance built into the character than any other cast member after Adam. Not to take over as the next holder of the Power of Grayskull but to be the next Sorceress. It was implied in the Filmation cartoon and other continuities that Teela's ultimate fate wasn't meant to be that of the captain of the guard or any other mundane role. I understand the opposition to Teela becoming a "He-Man" in place of Adam but it's not so likely to happen. Could it happen? Sure, anything can happen but it's not likely. Something that a lot of people don't put forth in discussion is that of the long standing theme of duality that has existed in MotU since the mini comics. There's the basic "good vs. evil" aka "He-Man vs. Skeletor" duality but there's also things like "technology vs. magic", "civilization vs. barbarism". There's also paired dualities such as "He-Man and The Sorceress", "Skeletor and Evil-Lyn", the core duality of transformation with the Power of Grayskull in "He-Man and Adam" and "Battle Cat and Cringer", and so on. So hypothetically, if Teela were to take over the role of He-Man, who would be her Sorceress? Not Andra. She's a techno specialist, not a master of the arcane. Orko? He's potentially powerful but to make him competent would basically negate his role in the story, which is to be the flawed but well meaning character archetype. Who else is there? If someone was to be the next Sorceress but it isn't Teela, surely they would have been introduced or at least hinted at in part 1 of Revelation. Sure, Teela could be an all powerful holder of the Power of Grayskull AS WELL as the next Sorceress but I don't see that happening. From Mattel's perspective, that negates one character that could be made into multiple toys to sell. Not only that, a Sorceress has often come with Castle Grayskull. Should a Revelation Castle Grayskull be made in Masterverse, why would Mattel leave money on the table by not having a Sorceress to sell with it? Especially since a Masterverse Castle Grayskull is likely to be produced, if ever, as a Mattel Creations exclusive/crowd funded product, which is fan/collector oriented. The majority of collectors are not going to desire a Castle Grayskull without a proper Sorceress.
It's 100% true. The studio I'm working at now is doing exactly the same it's just how Netflix handle some things. Basically our pipeline treats it all as one season with two delivery dates one for episodes 1... to lets say 8 then from 9 to 16. The production has numbered them as 101 to 108 and 201 to 208 so for the sake of being official they are treated as two seasons. The upside is that with that gap we have some breathing room to move things around the schedule but the main idea is that Netflix when season 1 is about to drop can say they are so happy with it that Season2 has been commissioned before release! It's not wrong per-say but the idea is to make whatever it is sound much better since to most people if you hear something is getting a season2 it must mean season 1 is great. This is likly why Transformers WFC had zero chance of getting better. It was likly already all written, recorded, boarded and mostly animated and edited before S1 even hit.
Yes, please, let's not get the thread nuked. I came back to the forum a few times over the past few days to see the thread locked. We're lucky that the mods are allowing us to get back at the discussion.
Kevin Smith’s biggest mistake was giving people the time of day and accusing some of them of liars. Then it came out and it revealed he was 50 shades of shit, womp womp! Right now, Kevin Smith just can’t shut the fuck up! He has part of a deal with Mattel, and now he’s stroking the flames and pissing fans off.
It seems pretty clear to me they’ve been foreshadowing two things. 1) Duality of Adam and Teela. All the fighting together and their hand off moves. Teela and Adam are a team. 2) Teela is going to be a different kind of Sorceress. Marlena’s comment that she looks like a WARRIOR GODDESS wasn’t just a callback to the original toy. Teela is going to be the Sorceress but take the fight outside the Castle with Adam. ...and Andra is Man-At-Arms in case anyone possibly missed that.
I suspected as such, splitting seasons when in other cases it would considered singular. Not gonna lie I was expecting production codes to remain the same despite this. Interesting stuff. If we're going to talk intent, then why is everyone skipping over the clear intent of the show makers: to make a cool dark future show that uses many elements of the IP's history. Instead we got a fandom microanalyzing every PR word and Twitter post to find the "real" motive of them being spiteful to He-Man. Sounds like the opposite of finding intent to me. Revelation can be the worst sequel/reboot ever, but it wouldn't mean the people who made it hated He-Man. It just means they aren't good at making shows. To the point where a former brand manager of He-Man got lambasted for saying he liked Revelation, guess he didn't fit the narrative. What a traitor. Smith's PR sucks though, that we can all agree on.
Melendy Britt (the voice of the original She-Ra, among others) also called Revelation a...let me see...something about the "loving force" of the "original fans"? In any case, she also showed approval for the series pre-release, and could easily come under fire for it now for similar reasons. Don't know where she stands on that now, all I know is loosely what she said before it came out. Indeed. Smith really should have kept his mouth shut. No one said it is?
