The BB film was fine but it threw me off when they changed the designs on cybertron.
I've come to the realization Paramount doesn't care about the films continuity.

 

When did they ever care to begin with?
Plus, the Cybertron scene was a last minute addition when the film was rewritten and reshot to downplay connections to previous TF films.

 

HasBro, and perhaps, AllSpark Ent. and/or Paramount, could have primarily used any and/or every single Deus EX Machina that series such as Transformers already have, so that they could eventually bring them all back to life itself. And again, and also, besides, objectively, factually, and critically judging from how they have treated any, and perhaps again, every singly other series and franchises such as Transformers thus far, it doesn't seem as if either HasBro, AllSpark Ent., and Paramount want to honestly, sincerely, and truthfully forsaken The Transformers' BayVerse at all, overall, and/nor altogether either. Just Saying.

 

Source of the Cybertron scene being a last minute addition? It's the start of the movie, sets up Bee coming to earth. How was it suppose to begin otherwise?

 

This was the original opening played at preview screenings. It was supposed to go hand and hand with TLK until someone (Hasbro or Paramount, most likely Hasbro) decided to shoot in new scenes to give make it the movie we've be arguing about for almost 3 years now

 

Also correlates with this Differences Between The Test Screening And The Final Version Of Transformers: Bumblebee - Transformers News - TFW2005

In retrospect this makes the whole Blitzwing debate look stupid too. Random seeker guy is just a Decepticon from WWII or something.

 

I find it strange that they would have a G1 Megatron in the preview screenings when it was suppose to be a full on prequel at that point.

 

It really is. I think since those parts were originally so small, it was probably ment to make the audience go "Hehe cool" but you had to keep in mind you know that's not what they're supposed to look like. Is it wrong continuity wise? Yeah, but I think the people making the film wanted to make something cool to see while sacrificing the specifics. I'm think that's how the studio thought about Bumblebee as a whole

 

Clearly it wasn't repaired at the end of the first movie, since Optimus and the others didn't recognize it as his voice.

 

There're a lot more similarities between the final cut and test screening then I thought, interesting.

 

As cool as the Cybertron scene was, I think I might prefer this opening

 

Bumblebee literally says "Permission to speak, sir" to which Optimus replies "Permission granted, old friend."

And in ROTF, when Mikayla asks about Bumblebee still having trouble, Sam waves it off saying that BB is just playing it up, so while he may still have trouble actually talking, it's an acknowledgement that the ability has been restored and its as much a personal choice not to talk as it might be still physically painful (and as a reminder, we do hear Bumblebee cough after Ratchet shoots him with the med-laser or whatever in the alleyway).

So, no, they literally forgot he talked and that Prime acknowledged it as such at the end of the first film.

 

Maybe it’s like when men grow up to have deeper voices?

 

This guy made a video on how Bee was able to speak in 2007 without actually "getting his voice back", which makes some interesting connections.

 

Random question but is the voice of Bumblebee in the end of the first movie the same as The Last Knight?

 

Nope. I’ve heard somewhere that his voice in the final cut of TLK was actually placeholder audio that just got left in.

 

Looking far too much into a movie that Paramount admitted literally was separate scripts cobbled together.

Like Sigmund Freud is misattributed to have once said, "A cigar is a cigar", because there is no deeper meaning here. It's a crap film that paid barely any attention to its own context and trying to explain it is just a waste of time.

 

Even though there were a lot of things I enjoyed about the Bayverse, I think it's reasonable to do a reboot. TLK wasn't good and its ending made things very confusing and complicated. It also retconned certain parts of prior movies.

TLK was a giant failure, and its effect on the story would be hard to weave around. It set up the future plot and established events in the past. So why not reboot? More specifically, why didn't they just make it clear in the first place that BB would be a reboot? The movie goes for an entirely different aesthetic and retcons the Bayverse in many ways, ranging from the massive differences on Cybertron to military contacts with "MBEs" (Transformers).

No, I am not a Bayverse hater. I actually prefer TF2007 to BB. But I am able to understand why a reboot was done - even if I'm not a fan of how the reboot was handled.

 

This whole thing is just an unbelievable shitshow. What a distaster. A total display of incompetence from Paramount, Hasbro, and everyone else involved in the production of these films. I can’t believe what has happened to these movies, but at the same time I’m not surprised.

Goodness. I’d love to time travel back to 2011 right after DOTM came out and show everyone what the hell happens in the future with these movies. I’d love to see the looks on everyone’s faces. It would be priceless. No one could really believe what they were hearing when it comes to the disaster of 2017, the writers room, and the reboot prequel shitshow we are currently in. Pretty much any bad thing that could have possibly happened has happened. The only luck we have seemed to have gotten is that Bumblebee was mostly a solid film, was profitable, and could very well be a reboot.

 

There IS something amazing/baffling/mind-blowing about the fact that trying to sit down and prepare for sequels and spin-offs led to The Last Knight, a movie that is impossible to make a sequel to.