Netflix plans a He-Man cartoon

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  1. Convotron

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    I believe Kevin Smith remarked that Revelation is metal and that amused me because it disregards how "metal" MotU originally was.

    I know that he's talking about a story (Revelation) branching out of the kid friendly Filmation cartoon but it seemed like Revelation being metal was seen as breaking the mold to him.

    In his defense, he never spoke of reading the mini comics.
     
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    Kevin Smith is acting as a salesman, a hypeman. It’s not supposed to be “truth” it’s butts in chairs. It’s Metal!
     
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    Yeah, he's definitely speaking in comparison to the Filmation series, not the mini comics.
    I should find some way to give those a read sometime.
     
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    Of course he's talking in context with the cartoon, that's what he and the vast majority of the world are familiar with.
    Plus he's in process of hyping up his new show, that's targeted at the people who grew up thinking MOTU was metal. Don't think the obscure mini comics are considered part of the equation.
    Just look at Shia LaBouf to see what happens when you don't hype up your current project during the release hype.
     
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    Thinking more, the other oddity is Teela's snake helm and staff. In the west, especially during that time in America, it's a symbol of evil and even Satan himself. They still are to a certain extent.

    I think they had an Egyptian vibe in their minds when designing her. But at that time good guys weren't supposed to have snakes on their costumes. I can't think of anything else that dared to do this.

    And that's one of the reasons we all love Teela. Her costume is completely badass.
     
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    Shia still gets projects?? Thought the stink on him was bad enough, that no one wanted to go near him.
     
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    I can see why a guy named Skeletor would want to live in 'Skull Castle', on top of the hill of bones. What a brilliant design. Best 'base/playset' design ever.
     
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    He's had a few projects, one of them was a semi-autobiographical movie he wrote where he portrayed a character based on his own father. But the most recent thing I can find on him is that he was fired from a psychological thriller film due to "poor behavior and clashing with the cast and crew." (quote from his Wikipedia page)


    To be on topic.
    The way snakes are viewed in media and constantly used as symbols of evil is disappointing. Are the 2013 DC comics the only time "The Goddess's" snake theming was tied in with the Snake Men?
     
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    Good question. I remember hearing this before but I didn't know where it came from.
     
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    If you want to read my half rant on how strange I find He-Man's fanbase
    Sorry but He-Man fans are extremely hard for me to like. Every. Single. Place. that contains discussion of this IP is full of these lame topics. Combined with whatever fake outrage is going on in YouTube and other social media sites and it's just aggravating as someone who wants to get into Masters of the Universe. Like what exactly is causing this behavior to where I see it everywhere for He-Man, the franchise with the funny skeleton guy? Not even Transformers has this besides the debates or happiness of a popular G1 character being referenced somewhere. It gets harder and harder to try to get into He-Man.
    Anyway I find it very fascinating about this IP ownership thing. So it reconfirms the idea the original show isn't owned by Mattel. My guess is they did write it as a sequel to the 80's show (explaining the earlier statements back during announcement), but then realized the legality issues so they backtracked a bit, causing Smith to contradict himself over time.
     
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    I've finally had the chance to read the inaugural issue of the new Revelations He-Man comic book that was referenced here previously. I'm not going to type a review. If you're a comic book reader and comic book industry supporter you're bound to pick it up yourself and come to your own conclusions.

    I'll say this though....


    It was pleasant, "smooth" and "easily digestible" which, if you're a new person entering into the MOTU universe ( or an amalgamation of all of the previous MOTU mythos) is a *good* thing. As someone that's been around since the very beginning of MOTU decades ago i didn't feel disrespected as a long time fan by the contents. There was nothing jarring about it (no, not even *that* which has already been addressed). The art was...serviceable. I've seen worse (and passed on buying those worse examples because of the art).

    Oddly enough what stood out to me was .........


    the lackluster view from the Kings balcony. I expected the city that the castle overlooked to be more ...substantial. The architecture was something i'd expect from 2021 Earth in any business district in a modern western city. I could see the silk screening shop and the appliance repair business in the distance....
     
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    Anyone familiar with @Scrapmaker question on the relationship between the Goddess (who I totally forgot about in the lore) and the Snakemen? Sounds like it could be a pretty cool connection.

    Snakemen were some of Classics best figures. Also liked the 200X designs for them.
     
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    I'm no expect, but I think like Scrapmaker reasoned, it's a connection that probably started with the DC Comics run since Goddess by that time was only in the world of Prototypes, Mini-Comics and Matty Collector Bios, and the Snake-Men weren't an idea yet when her first appearances in the mini-comics happened. Seems like an happy coincidence that some creators noticed later on and ran with it. I wouldn't mind seeing it explored further in future continuities, it could show that the Snake-Men aren't necessarily evil by nature (though I could imagine King Hiss the individual being stone-cold evil).
     
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    I mean, we have how many hundreds of thousands of years of experience of associating them with poison / death? Despite what others here are saying, it's just a common view, the same with scorpions and other venomous creatures. The Greeks view wasn't even positive, but neutral. This is why you had things like the Hydra and Gorgons. Part of the reason why the view remains negative is the fact that we are still encountering them frequently as a society. Bears for example, only shed their own extremely negative image after a long time of the two species not interacting with each other on a regular basis for a long time.
     
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    Even the Hydra wasn't all bad. A less remembered aspect of the myth is that after Heracles slew it, it's body decayed and carved out a new riverbed, giving rise to a verdant new settlement land. It lends its name to the prefix "hydro", for life-essential water.
     
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    There have been differing opinions.
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    I actually think Revelation is going to make her the Green Goddess. I know DC has done it but I am 100% sure she is going to become the Sorceress in Revelation and I am expecting the Sake Armor for her incarnation. I think they are going to have her power-up green. Like her default setting will be armored with some new twists but when she powers up she’ll go green.

    I believe they are drawing on older stuff - 2 swords etc. I think they are going to play up the idea of duality and the Sorceress being as important as “He-Man” to Eternia. And I think she’s going to get a quasi-transformation that involves another “I have the power” transformation for her.

    2 Closing reasons

    1) The Green Goddess is “Metal” AF
    2) It sells more toys
     
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    Also, I think that almost all ancient cultures revered and worshipped the bad deities along with the good. An evil god or demon was still "embraced." Something that all polytheistic religions share.
     
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    This. The Egyptians, as an example, worshiped Set just as much as they worshiped Osiris, Ra, Anubis, etc. And while Set was considered an "evil god" he also had neutral aspects that he held sway over. So, he was worshiped as well as a form of appeasement since the Egyptians didn't want to risk pissing him off and have to deal with being punished by him.
     
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    That is more of an explanation for how a certain settlement happened.

    Anyhow, even in Asian cultures, snakes are never purely positive, and neutral to negative is the most common. In wuxia, which fills the equivalent position of Western fantasy and super heroes for China, heroes almost never practice arts related to snakes. At best, you will find something like Battle Through the Heavens, where medusas are chaotic neutral and the hero has to show off a lot of strength to win them over.
     
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