Kingdom Waspinator In-Hand Images & Review

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Daimao, Jun 10, 2021.

  1. Venomus Rodimus

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    No comment.
     
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    That's insane it jumped up so fast. I got mine from BBTS last Fall for $14
     
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  3. Verno

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    Scale has been a big part of the War For Cybertron Trilogy design philosophy. The TF-Wiki phrases is thus:

    "The War for Cybertron toylines aims to serve as a back-to-basics approach to Transformers, with a focus on media accuracy, articulation, and a consistent robot mode scale (relatively based on the "G1" cartoon)."

    So if the G1 figures' relative scale is based on the G1 cartoon, it follows that the Beast Wars figures' relative scale should be based on the Beast Wars cartoon, but we're seeing a bit of deviation on that front. This could be because the Beast Wars figures in Kingdom started their design life outside of the larger WFC Trilogy and were brought in late in the game, or perhaps due to a condensed timeframe for designing the figures meant that scale wasn't as large a factor as with the wider Trilogy. We probably won't ever know the specifics.

    So, ideally, the scaling of the characters in the Kingdom show should be based on the scaling of the Kingdom figures which should be based on the scaling of the Beast Wars characters in the Beast Wars cartoon. But as the Kingdom toys have deviated from the source material in some instances, the characters featured in the Kingdom show will likely do so as well.
     
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  4. Alph

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    Actually it's the other way around. The Netflix show is created based on the WfC toyline, which is created to represent legacy characters.

    In other words, they didn't give the characters a certain size or appearance in the show and then say "now let's make the toys like that". The toys came first independent of a show, and the show is just copying whatever the toys did long after the fact.
     
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    So much better looking than those first leaked images, yeah, I can get behind this lil dude (cos he\'s short, minibot short). He\'s different enough from T30 for me to keep both and he looks fun to mess with. 
     
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    Am I the only one who is digging the purple light piping.
     
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  7. Afterburner

    Afterburner For your health

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    I like the purple a lot. And finally yellow shoulders!
     
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    These figures only exists because of the popularity of the original show. Whatever the new show does with them is irrelevant. And on top of that, the show straight up uses the toy's CAD models anyway so the Kingdom show will match whatever the Kingdom figures do but again nobody cares about that. They could have made any random Deluxe beast character Ironhide height and by virtue of the show matching that wouldn't make it "right" in the fandom's eyes.

    Waspinator and Scorpinok being shorter than Blacklarachnia is ridiculous. Generations Waspinator by default is more accurate since he's not shorter than Black Arachnia. Get Scorponok some thigh extenders and he'll be up to the height he should be at as well.
     
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  9. maloney4playz

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    we havent even gotten comparison images with them, hes probably gonna be taller than BA
    and dont tell me that the t30 is better because it really isnt, the kingdom one has better paint, better QC, better price, better articulation, better scale and better detail, and dont use the bullshit takara one as a reference either as you think im gonna be able to find one at a normal price nowadays, if you can get me a link to a well priced t30s waspinator then i'll change my mind but untill then the kingdom one is better.
     
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  10. Zodiac1968340

    Zodiac1968340 Beast Wars fan

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    I think I would get him and paint the mouth and eye,
    here's a pic of my lv.1 photo editing
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    Generations Waspinator is already out and we know it's as tall as Black Arachnia. These pics shows he's smaller than the Generations figure. And his paint job is not better than the LGEX version. Even the Generations version with the lack of paint detail on the head is better since this one's yellow is a pale ugly yellow plastic. The only benefit this one offers is a better offer to collectors who don't own any version of the character, the ankle pivot joints and yellow on the shoulders. The old one has ball jointed elbows over the new one's ratchet joints.

    The fact that the Takara one is priced differently is irrelevant, we're talking strictly about the figure itself. It's still far superior in almost every aspect. I didn't get it back then either so I have both options on the table for me right now and it's very clear which figure presents the superior version of the character.

    Affordability doesn't make one figure better than another on a subjective level.
     
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    Kingdom pros vs. T30:
    * Wasp mode is generally more realistic. T30's wasp is chonky and uses mechanical surface detail on a seemingly non-Transmetal form.
    * Paint work is a bit more screen-accurate, depending on which version of the T30 mold you compare to.
    * Transformation is similar to the T30 mold, but tucks the robot arms away a bit better.
    * Articulation adds range to the robot knees, ankle tilts, and waist rotation. Wasp mode adds some head/antennae motion and... mandibles maybe?
    * The purple eyes of both modes and light piping is pretty neat.

    Cons vs. T30:
    * Kingdom continues to be more inconsistent with relative scale of BW characters than G1 characters, though being fair the BW show played kinda fast and loose with scale if visual storytelling called for it.
    * Every bit of brown plastic looks terrible. bug legs and antennae are too large for either mode, too thick, take up too much space on the robot mode, and have such a soft, mushy sculpt, they look more like bits of 'magic shell' chocolate drizzled on wax paper and left to harden.
    * I don't like the purple on the wings, which is apparently shared with the translucent eyes and such.
    * Stinger weapon is even less elaborate.

    Like others have said, it's largely a lateral move, with most improvements balanced out by back-steps compared with the T30 design. It seems like a fine option relative to the other, and maybe, like Rhinox, if someone offers an enhancement kit, might potentially even prove a superior choice.
     
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  13. maloney4playz

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    the old one was ugly to high hell and back, the lack of paint on the hasbro one and the metallic paint on the takara one just made it look awful, this one is much more accurate and im valueing posability over paint cause you can, and get this, paint it yourself should you desire, and its not just the takara one thats priced horribly, the hasbro one is priced higher than some masterpieces in my country. look, the old was was good, but i like this one better because it is better.
     
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    One thing's for sure, someone's gotta turn up the thermostat before Kingdom Waspinator's perky nipples put someone's eye out.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I can just imagine JobbytheHong's review. [cue motorboat noises]
     
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  16. C16

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    You can definitely paint it yourself, but you can't do anything about the fat bug limbs, the short robot height and the incorrect bug leg placement. Irrelevant of the aftermarket price, if they were both available at retail right now the Takara LGEX (and no, not the ugly metallic one in review's pictures) would have more pros. Correct height, better colors overall versus the oversaturated purple, pale yellow, incorrectly shortened robot mode, inferior gun and unnecessarily thick bug limbs. Stop letting market value dictate which figure is the better version side by side. It's fine to prefer this version because it's more readily available but don't pretend it's a better representation of the character because of that.


    inferior for poors lol.png
     
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  17. lord ginrai

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    The fat wasp legs and antennae are the biggest turnoff for me. Seeing them side by side, I actually prefer the wider hips and smaller chest on the new Kingdom figure. But then the sculpting on the crotch is off and looks more like a fig leaf. The yellow shoulders are a nice touch.

    If the figure were to ever get a premium repaints a la LG-EX, it could give that a run for its money. Well, if it weren't for the fat legs, crappy gun and short stature.

    I think @Feralstorm was spot on. It's a side grade and any preferences one way or the other are entirely subjective. Objectively, both molds have their fair share of faults.
     
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  18. maloney4playz

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    maybe if something along the lines of the legends scorpion figure is released for waspinator, i'll get that but the bug legs dont really bother me anyways, plue they's ball jointed right? so you coul probably pop then out and replace then with ones that might come with a future upgrade kit. but they should have definitely have just retooled the old one with a waist swivel and better knees, kept the purple colouring and released that
     
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    There's no shame in not wanting to shell out for the best looking option available. Just don't get defensive about people calling a spade a spade.

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    Kingdom Waspinator still looks pretty good, just not as good as this.
     
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    maloney4playz God's Strongest Broadside hater

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    why did tonton's takara waspinator look so dark in the review?