It's been the center of discussion for a page or 2 now.

 

i'm very disappointed with this final reveal. i have too many issues i question and i can't overlook. sadly, looks like this will be the first NA mold i'll be passing on.

i'm good with partsforming, but this whole torso framework is too much for me. particularly since it's just an extra piece set aside with no purpose when not combined. at least with IF bruticus and MS menasor, the framework actually became a useful alt part as a trailer for both, and in IF case alternatively a stand alone bust. feel NA should have done something with the skeletal framework given how much of it there is, be it transforming and/or partsforming, into something… anything.

also don't understand why most of the bot crew has this new articulated hand, except for two. think it would bug my OCD to the point that since they all don't get this new hand mold, i rather it be none of all.

for me, MS consistently did better with the leg design on the individual bots, as well as on hip/thigh proportions on the combiner.

not to say i won't end up getting this NA devy, but it's looking highly unlikely now that i see the entire set as MS has my money for devy right now. only questions i have on my mind for the MS release is how they will be handling the combiner parts, if it's going to be any better, and how the QC will be when released. their menasor wasn't bad by any means, but there was still a bit of back and forth in some areas. NA has had a much better track record for me with respect to QC.

 

omg that Long Haul alt mode looks atrocious!  

 

Yikes. Not happy about a set "D" that will hike up the price another $75, but as a Devastator mark, I will reluctantly buy it. Well, after I see how the toy/toon sets differ.

 

Thanks. Good to know. I just saw this picture this morning and feel very disappointed about the design.

 

When comes to combiners, MS designer for sure will have much more experience then NA because MS designer start off on making garage kit of combiners, for my info he's been making many combiners roughly hundred something. Still the reason I lean toward NA is their good record of materials, QC and premium paint apps. If MS start using material like NA, it would be a instance buy for me.

 

Wow I'm feeling quite a bit let down over the level of extra parts (or 1 big part) it'll take to put devy together. I accept the big framework for the stunticons since that was how it was portrayed in the cartoon. Also the framework for MS Menasor has a great transformation into a trailer. I've always been impressed with the magic Newage does for transformations and Devy is quite a disappointment.

 

I'm suprised that people would prefer that the frame transform into something. All that would do is raise the final cost because it would take that much more engineering and parts to accomplish.

 

I didn't expect that combiner piece would be sold on a different box,if is at same price of their Constructicons ,I'll just buy all of them for now,and instead keep MS for Devastator mode that is also much better.

 

MS has almost the same thing except they don’t have the upper arm supports. The MS abdomen that looks like it is Longhaul’s grill actually isn’t his grill. It’s part of the frame.

Would love to be wrong but look at long haul in robot mode and then look at the abdomen. They are not the same.

 

where are you getting this info that the MS designer has worked on over a hundred garage kit combiners?

 

Thanks for the comparisions. Loving the Toyetic NA offerings in every individual mode.

NA went for the straight cartoon look for the combined mode. Which is odd since the team members are so toyetic. Let’s be fair the G1 Toy didn’t even have thighs. It wasn’t until studio Ox that Devy had “muscular” thighs.

 

yes, but this is the original Hulkie designer is it not? there was absolutely no combiner parts set aside. granted to do that there were a lot of compromises done. but this is a complete 180. i was hoping something that met in the middle would come out of this on the lines of IF bruticus and MS menasor.   the whole concept of devastor is why it to me is the one and only true combiner, that each element plays a significant and structural part of forming the whole. not a combiner that has arm and legs bots slapped onto already existing limbs of a larger bot.

 

I still think Devy and the individual bots look rather good spare a few minor grievances. I wasn’t expecting a set D. Figured it would be a build a figure with the combiner parts. Hope that set D is also not also $75.

 

Yeah, this is disappointing. I know that MS is doing a similar thing (@chuckcjc you're not wrong about the faux Long Haul front in combined mode), but I was kind of hoping that part could be removed if you didn't want it. Highly unlikely, though.

But still, this is like the whole damn body frame. I've come to expect something like pants-forming on Devastator, and the arm extensions are fine. But this almost-Devastator-all-by-itself shell thing is just too much.

 

I think the biggest hangups for me right now are how ugly the cab/foot of Magic Square's MixMaster is, and how horrific NewAge's Long Haul altmode looks. And I'm sure the shades of green and purple won't match between the two brands so swapping in MS's Long Haul won't look quite cohesive with the rest of the NA team as an alt mode display.

 

I hope pack D isn’t $75. I’m disappointed in pack D because it could just be merged into pack C and make pack C more expensive over selling the combiner components in another box.

 

Unfortunately there are those who think it is a joke... But it is not, and I do not understand how the NA got so low...

 

I can understand why NA make that obvious combiner part. They always want sth fun to play and make as less partforming as possible. 1 piece is also easy to store without worrying of loosing any parts (I remember NA said this in one of their posts).
From what I can see about MS devastator, there will still be a lot of combiner parts from separate pieces. There will still be arms, back, head, chest, belly, hip and thighs, not much less than NA.

Just saying, I don't like how both company have done with their devastator. They are equally bad in those combiner parts, I would just make decision based on the aesthetic, or choose both if money is not a problem.

 

Yeah, it's ugly as hell and really pulls me away from this set. Looks like a barrow on bicycle wheels. Aesthetics-wise it reminds me of this thing:


MST Longhaul looks much better to me, but instead, their Mixmaster altmode has some pretty weird proportions. Tho It's not as bad, as bad NA Longhaul is.