Unpopular opinions (Non Transformers only)

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  1. Bee427

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    This is the opinions thread. J is sharing his opinion. I'm not seeing the problem here.
    Also holy shit, you think disagreeing with someone is grounds for an infraction? Sounds like you're the one who feels the need to "correct" someone else's opinion.
     
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    Reminds me of a quote from my man Thomas Sowell:

    “One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.”

    It blows me away when people will take the opinions of famous people such as actors as gospel when often they are out of touch with regular folks / issues, and more often than not nowadays being an actor doesn't take as much talent as it once did, you just have to look good and be able to read your lines semi-convincingly.. or be friends with the right people.

    There are actors and actresses I respect, but at the end of the day many of them are incredibly desperate for attention and seem to have rather inflated egos / unwarranted self-importance when what they do is basically play pretend for a living and presumably turn a blind eye to all the seedy shit in Hollywood unless they want to lose their job.
     
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    You're right, libertarian opinions are wildly unpopular.
     
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    You're not wrong about that, but I don't think you mean what you've wrote out there.

    A libertarian is defined as:
    1. One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state.
    2. One who believes in free will.

    What I believe you may be referring to how the political left in the U.S. is often called the Libertarian party, which discussing further would be in violation of the site's rules and was not really what I was talking about anyways.
     
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    Nah, Libertarian =/= liberal (when have these been confused outside of highschool?), and liberal=/=left for that matter either.

    But no i wasn't referring to that, rather the intellectual charlatanry of libertarian think tank employed ghouls like Thomas "black people have only themselves to blame" Sowell.
     
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    Ah of course.

    Should have figured that's what you meant, my mistake.
     
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    You're in an "unpopular opinion" thread attempting to invalidate someone's opinion, so not even REMOTELY like what you tried to twist my words to say.

    But he didn't come in here to relay an unpopular opinion, he directly quoted and attempted to dismantle the other poster's opinion. It's no different than what people were pulling to the posters in the TF equivalent thread when they had the gall to say they didn't like BW or TFA. It was crap there, and it's crap here.

    You'd be surprised how many comments get by that rule because of which side of the aisle said comment represents.
     
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    Dude, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. But it seems like the thought of an actual discussion where people disagree with each other upsets you. Maybe you should take a break from this thread.
     
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    Lmao this boomer is still so mad :lol  like just say you agree with his irrational hatred of actors and get on with your life, don’t write an essay about it bro lol
     
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    I knew I should have simply put it on ignore instead of engaging it.

    Oh, well. Rectified.
     
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    Awww I was having fun :(  oh well, see you later G1Prowl, I’ll miss your reminders that age does not always bring wisdom.

    Anyway, time for an unpopular opinion - I don’t like noodles. Not just ramen, but spaghetti too. The texture is too smooth, thin and wet, it feels like I’m eating worms.
     
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    I, too, know people like that, and I wouldn't expect a quick response from them. I wouldn't expect any of my construction worker, law enforcement or teacher friends or to respond quickly to a text. That would just be stupid. They're busy throughout the day and I realize that.

    The folks I'm referring to do NOT have one of the aforementioned careers. The people I'm talking about have desk jobs and spend a great deal of their time posting on various social media outlets throughout the day. If you have time to post photos of your cat on Instagram in the early afternoon, you can respond to a simple text message that's asking if you want me to pick something up for you... but whatever. I'm done with them.
     
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    As irrational as it may be, the guy wasn't completely wrong. Some actors know that they have influence over others, and that can arguably be because these people that "worship" them allow these celebrities to have influence over them. So to me, it's two fold. Narcissists who thrive on the attention of others will use it to their liking or advantage. And those who seemingly worship the very ground they walk on...will soak in everything the person is saying. Not everyone is going to be of the mindset of ignoring whatever any celebrity of any type has to say.
     
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    Oh I’m not saying actors can’t be narcissistic - I’ve worked with plenty and many of them have ego problems. But specifically what SubOptimalOptimus said, that they need to be beggars or whatever, is completely psychotic. I don’t know if he had a girlfriend leave him for an actor or something but clearly there was some kinda hang up because no rational person is THAT extreme about it. And look, some people do obsess over actors, but it’s not a large section of the population and it’s nowhere NEAR as bad as he was making it seem (and honestly if SubOptimalOptimus truly thinks that the worst thing about society is “we value actors TOO much” I wanna live in the fantasy world he clearly lives in).
     
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    :lol  I think you're over-reacting to his unpopular opinion if you think he thinks that's the worst thing about society. I really don't know how or where you got that from :lol  And to add some veiled insult to it tells me where your mind is :lol 
     
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    I don't know, call me crazy but saying you don't like actors is fine, but to call them scum and liars, etc. then not give any examples, being as vague as possible... it's a bit weird. Almost like if you explained why, it would break the site rules... so maybe you just shouldn't post it to start the cycle of vaguely arguing about things we can't outright type for the hundredth millionth time. But, again, idk maybe I'm wrong about the rules, quoting political figures and explaining libertarianism might not count.
     
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    There is a fine line that can be crossed easily. But still, just posting an opinion of sorts isn't really against the rules. But digging for that explanation or responding in a fashion that would cross that fine line can be. I'm sure most if not all of us have been paying attention to the happenings around us. Whether or not we care as much as others is another story. But still, we are all responsible for the things we do, and the things we say. And that for some...is an unpopular opinion.
     
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    Worshiping out of touch rich elites and seeing them as role models is one of the most fucked up things of the modern age. Some might be decent people (maybe?) but that sort of lifestyle always corrupts you and makes you unable to relate with the common folks. Remember at the start of the thing-from-late-2019-that-shall-not-be-named how celebrities were going "Well, being stuck in your home isn't so bad!" while the picture showed giant mansions with pools, golf course and more? This is a perfect and, in my opinion, as apolitical as I can get as a criticism of their life style.

    It used to be hip to make fun of them being out of touch. They are the modern day Marie Antoinettes telling us to eat cake. You may dislike me for some of my beliefs but this is one I believe myself to be completely correct. They are not people like us, they are the modern day royalty who have forgotten what its like to work pitiful jobs and deal with problems of daily life so when they open their big mouths to pass judgment, we shouldn't listen to them.

    Remember when we used to make fun of Tom Cruise' insane Scientology shit?
     
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    The things is that celebrities aren't the royalty in this scenario - they don't rule, they don't make laws. They're the clowns. Their job instead is to provide the latter part of panem et circenses - to distract you from issues that really matter and whether you are cheering or booing at them doesn't matter so long as your attention is on your "entertainment" instead of "the man behind the curtain." You aren't opting out of your circenses by choosing outrage instead of adulation. Quite the opposite, there are people who make a living off giving others new useless stuff to be mad about. The only way to opt out is to not care.

    Mind you, I'm not saying to be apathetic to everything concerning celebrities, just advising being more discerning. Ask yourself "Who is hurt by this?" and "What can I do to actually help?". Most examples I believe are appropriate I will not say because the reason they are appropriate is that they are political in nature but for example, it is entirely understandable to not want to give money to someone who has been revealed as beating their partner. This isn't just "someone said something stupid on Twitter", someone actually got hurt and boycotting for that reason may not do a lot but it is better than nothing.

    In conclusion, there isn't anything wrong with rolling your eyes when an actor proves to be out of touch with the real world but I think people are getting onto you because there are far better targets for the title "liars, charlatans, scum, villains and grifters".
     
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    Man do I feel vindicated about when that one guy said
    And look, IDK about you but I feel like the global pandemic that's killed millions and that those in power failed to contain, big tech corporations invading our privacy and selling our information to advertisers, and a bunch of other problems I can't discuss because of the "no-politics" rule are way more pressing matters than "Chrissy Tiegen didn't realize Parasite was making fun of her", but then again I guess your opinion is unpopular for a reason.

    Yeah no shit they're out of touch, I don't think they're fucking subhuman for that though. I'm also not going to rush to immediately judge their moral character because I don't think so fucking highly of myself that I believe I'M the ultimate judge of who a good person is. You're calling these people scum and trash because you think they're too well liked, clearly you don't have the strongest moral center either.

    First of all you can say Pandemic, I don't get why you're being obtuse there. And yeah, that's dumb and ignorant and out of touch of celebrities. Guess what? Most people I saw clowned the shit out of them for it. The discourse wasn't "Oh I wish I was in quarantine there", it was "Fuck you celebrities my grandma is gonna die from this Covid shit". Where the fuck are you getting this notion that we "worship" celebrities from?

    "hip" what are you a Grandpa making fun of his grandkids :lol  Also what do you mean "used to", it still is. Do we not remember that dumbass "Imagine" video that Gal Gadot and all the other rejects from The Office did? Do you NOT remember how the reception to it was SO negative that she deleted her Twitter? People make fun of celebrities for being out of touch idiots all the time, it's really fun to do. Again, I have no fucking idea where you're getting this idea that we "worship" them from, and I would genuinely like to know where you're basing your conclusions from, because I'm applying the most BASIC of scrutiny to your opinion and it's shriveling like a raisin in the sun.

    Well Marie Antionette had institutional power to make peoples lives better and she didn't. That's why they cut her head off. Unless I missed something, people like Chris Hemsworth don't have any real power, not even the fake lightning powers he has in those boring-ass Marvel movies.

    Okay, ignoring the absolutely psychotic "they are not people like us" (seriously, if you truly believe that they're "not people" then you need help, I'm not even making a joke here), the only way I think they could be seen as "royalty" is if they held any institutional power, which, again, THEY FUCKING DON'T. Why don't you take this useless smooth-brain take about how we should do a Soylent Green on actors because they're rich and focus it towards the rich people who can actually make your life worse? Why not level it to the pocket-padding people in government who could sign a bill tomorrow and turn your home into a highway with you and your family in it? Why not level that anger towards tech billionaires who lobby politicians to sell all your private data and conversations to advertisers so you can get personalized ads for crap you don't want? Or do you just not care about any of that because those rich people aren't publicly advocating for things and people that you don't like?

    Yeah newsflash, we still hate Scientology. Not sure if you read the news (judging from what you've posted so far you live in a fantasy world so I'm assuming the news there is different) but the guy from That 70's Show is on trial for raping several women and people are scrutinizing Scientology for enabling him to do so and helping cover it up. So again, unless you're just willingly ignoring information because it doesn't fit your narrative (which I'm willing to bet my entire G1 Collection you are), I have to assume you're just running your mouth about shit you didn't bother to research because you've got some kind of a chip on your shoulder for reasons you're being intentionally vague about because of the no-politics rule. Which hey, if you can't tell us how you REALLY feel because of the boards rules, maybe you just shouldn't post these kinda smooth-brain reactionary "hot takes".
     
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