Why the TF movies are bad adaptations

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by TheWarPathGuy, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. GrimlockPrime19

    GrimlockPrime19 I always have the high ground

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    For sure you can. But only it doesn't make them good. G1 has as many stupid stuff as Bayverse, like the Decepticon day, or when someone went to a lab and came back of there with the Dinobots or the Combaticons
    I just don't use G1 as a good example. Aligned (for this I mean WfC, FoC, TFP, comics related to them), many idw universes, the main one mainly, Bayverse comics, Bayverse games
    We also have good G1 stuff like TF Devastation, and idw main verse comes straight from G1, and made it better and logic

    I haven't read it yet but I haven't heard much about this. I mean, I refer to the the main idw timeline, so I don't see why I would name an exact comic. All Hail Megatron was intetesting when I read, that comic which Optimus killed Galvatron and Soundwave became good (maybe it's MTMTE but idk names), there is that comic which Megatron is rebuild OP af, but my fav ones are those which talk about Cybertron, I mean, the ones that happen on Cybertron. Imo, the gold of idw is the focus they give on cybertron. I feel like I know everything about Cybertron I'd like to know in that universe
    The dreamwave comics portrait cybertron well in the few I read, but I've heard they are the same universes so idk
     
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    He has a grudge against IDW because of how All Hail Megatron handled the continuity between the previous stories (which is fair) so he's just passive-aggressive against all of it.

    Granted he hasn't read anything past AHM, but still.
     
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    daniel 97 Autobots' second in command

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    This is what you get when the director knows nothing about the source material.
     
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    The thing is that Transformers didn't have a decent source material. I mean, G1 didn't have coherence at all
     
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  5. TheWarPathGuy

    TheWarPathGuy Tougher than Leather.

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    Again, that's fine. Some ideas work and some don't. Transformers is a franchise that has taken ideas with little to no lore like triple changers and do something new with it. Even other franchises take ideas with poor execution and twist them into something great. The movies tried and failed.
     
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    Michael Bay is a good reason why we cannot have a good live actin adaptation granted that short beautiful moment at the beginning of the bumblebee movie gives me hope. Also keep to original designs and ignore the laws of physics i mean it is a movie about robots being the crap out of each other.
     
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    It really amazes me, that people still shit on Bay after all of these years. The films happened. Get over it. Bumblebee came out and gave what every one of you wanted. All in all, I find it quite pointless to crap on something that is already finished and done. Let's just move past this. And given I know, there will be few who will give me rude responses; I'm just being realistic. As for my opinion, I think Bay's films aren't as bad as stated. They have flaws but doesn't any movie from Hollywood. The answer is yes. No movie will be a masterpiece, however, I can appreciate the creativity from Bay and everyone involved. I personally have issues with the 07 film, but they're small ones, that barely matter. And yet I love that film. As for Travis Knight's movie "Bumblebee"; it wasn't bad, nor good, to me it was an alright film. Given what I said earlier, no movie is a masterpiece, and shouldn't be treated as one. It's like the discussions I've had with my friends of Starwars. I like them all, I accept all the love and care that was placed into these films. Ultimately I look at it as a bigger picture than doing the "follow the leader" move. Anyways, All films in general, have an equal and a flaw, it's just how things are.
     
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    I agree with everything in here 100% , I understood all the hate when the movies were still being made but even now? Bruh some people say ''Move on TLK was 5 years ago'' or ''Who cares the movies are dead'' but then they still continue to shit on them.
    I for one like / even love the Bayverse , I see it's flaws and I accept them and move on. Bayverse is the franchise that brought me into all of this and honestly it made a big part in my childhood but look , Im not gonna stay here and write on how ''bAyVersE iS ThE BeST'' because it isn't...
    My point is , let people love and like what they want , as I said , I for one enjoy the Bayverse but that doesn't mean I don't like other tf media like TFP , RID , Armada , Energon , Rescue bots , god damn even G1.
     
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    Not my case, i still find BB lackluster
     
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    same lmfao
     
  11. daniel 97

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    Yeah, that's also true.
    Spot on!
    Agreed! Despite the general reception of the movies, they still have a special meaning to those of us who grew up with them. To me, the live-action movies served as the introduction to transformers. Although I am aware of their flaws and respect the other media such as G1, there will always be a special appreciation for the films.
     
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    Oh it definitely is, I even have issues with some design work; but it doesn't mean I hate them all. Above all, As previously stated. I think the film, was an alright film.
     
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    Michael Bay deadass was never going to replicate G1 after the first movie. He may cherry pick certain things but he'll go for his own thing as much as possible.

    From the Michael Bay appreciation thread:
    That being said, I'm looking forward to the visions of the other directors and what they are cooking up. Don't know if I'll like it or not because we haven't seen a visual image from them.
     
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    hthrun Show accuracy's overrated

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    I grew up with G1 and I still prefer the Bayverse.
     
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    Just make the movies 90% about the robots and 10% about the humans and that should fix most of the issues...unless the movie is set entirely on Cybertron. But any Earth-bound story has to include humans on a superficial level ( world governments aren't going to sit around watching giant robots destroying their cities). But having Earth be practically Cybertron 2.0 or conveniently housing important relics is just lazy. What BB got right was them (Autobots) unfortunately bringing their war to Earth and now have to protect it.
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    This. It's hilarious how Bay fans are told to "move on" and that they "shouldn't expect very many Bayformer figures in Studio Series because that continuity is over", yet we still have to continue listening to 40-something-year-old nerds complain about the movies.
     
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    Which is kinda weird cuz AHM isn't a bad story and it's easily way better than any of the Bay movies.

    I get peoples criticisms of it (when they're coherent) and even if I disagree with some of them I still get their beefs with it in regards to stuff like continuity, though to be fair the continuity before this story was kind of up in the air at the time anyways so...
     
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