MS-Toys legend scale not Menasor / Stunticons

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Cheem The Rup, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Delduwath

    Delduwath Well-Known Member

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    On the one hand, I'm a little disappointed that all four limb bots have such similar transformations. On the other hand, it's really cool that despite the overall similarities, they still end up having some important differences in the minor details of the transformation.
     
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    Ok, that sounds like a more reasonable number.

    They should stick that number on the box. Imagine, if you change 1 combination every day, it would take you almost 9 months to display every combination!
     
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    His price is high because he's absorbing some of the limb prices.

    LAUGHS IN MST PROWL
     
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  4. Snaku

    Snaku Primes Don't Party

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    I can't tell if you're being funny but just in case, that's not how that works at all.
    1. Head A or B (toon or Ox)
    2. Shoulder pylons yes/no
    3. Cars on shoulders, cars entire arm, cars split arm (note that cars on shoulders cancels out the shoulder pylons since they use the same parts)
    4. Legs front/back
    5. Thighs toon/Ox
    6. Crotch normal/Ox
    7. Chest Normal/Ox
    Two options for reach of the seven, except for arms, which gives you three, but we have to remember that the third arm option cancels out one of the shoulder options. So let's separate the shoulder option for now and say we've got six options instead of seven and one of those has three choices.
    2x2x2x2x2x3=96 choices without the shoulder pylons.
    Then let's figure how many we've got with the shoulder pylons which only gives us two choices for the arms.
    2x2x2x2x2x2=64 choices with the shoulders.
    96+64=160 options. Like you, though, I'm assuming we keep arms symmetrical and legs symmetrical. If we wanted to include asymmetrical options, the math gets more complicated than I want to deal with.

    [Edit] sniped by @Delduwath while I was figuring it all out. Not sure which of us messed up our calculation, though.
     
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  5. Delduwath

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    If you do asymmetric arms and legs, you can get even more combinations!

    Hey, I feel bad for the people who like to buy 3 combiner sets to display all 3 modes together. They're gonna shell out a lot of money to do that with this set.
     
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    Yeah. I forgot it's an either/or with things like the chest. I'm good looking, not a mathematician.
     
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    ManelFigures You can't hear the bass, but you can feel it.

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    Oh my gosh, the last combination is insane!! Very happy with the result, I hope no QC issues... :lol 
     
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    Huub G1 - Magic Square nerd

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    Poor Prowl :D  I'm still guessing a May release for him though :thumb 

    Head sculpts for Deadend and Dragstrip are on point as well and they're on ball pegs!
     
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    This is gonna be great, fanstoys will probably be a let down after this one I know it kicks x-transbots arse.
     
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    It's already better than XTB. They only had two possible combinations: broken or disappointing.

    Yeah... I uh... was totally joking... *Googles "Arithmetic For Dummies" *
     
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    Also cos you're paying for 2 figures: 1 legends size + 1 Leader size. The price works better if you think of it as buying a Leader size figure that happens to come with a Legends figure as well.

    LOL, nice try tho. At least you got the ball rolling.

    I will pray for you...just you. :lol 
     
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    ManelFigures You can't hear the bass, but you can feel it.

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    You're very kind, I appreciate it :lol  :lol 
     
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  13. Delduwath

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    I think that separating the shoulder pylon options from the arm options into two separate categories makes things harder, because they are NOT independent categories. That's why I combined the shoulders-plus-arms into one category.

    Your math is right, you just missed that having shoulder pylons restricts you to only one arm option, not two (at least, as presented in the video; I'm sure you can leave forearm coverings off of the other two arm modes and it'll be mostly fine), and also that the cars can be pointed up or pointed down.
     
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    Yeah, the math on this is complicated. I'm not gonna even attempt but kudos to those who did or will do. :thumbs2: 
     
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    I’m thinking now the MS set will be in combined mode and NA individual.
     
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    I have high expectations from Newage for a car display
     
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  18. Phase Sixer

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    Hell yeah, beautifully painted, sharp alt modes. Finally an NA Lamborghini!
     
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  20. TIKnTIN

    TIKnTIN … beating a dead horse with a broken record, LoL!

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    yeah, not digging that muddy brown colour on dragstrip. and deadend's alt sculpt/roofline is as bad as wildrider. but this is MS so it is what it is. :p