WfC:III Kingdom Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by barry, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. Michael Schlem

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    Yep. Deluxe Waspinator, Deluxe Pipes (more significant remold of Huffer according to Apollux), Deluxe Shadow Panther (from Cheetor), Deluxe Slammer (who, according to Apollux, is a Weaponizer), Voyager Tigatron, and Voyager Starscream (likely Earthrise Rerelease). Though, I really hope we get the Zone Metrosquad. It would counteract 2 Autobot Weaponizers in the form of Siege Six-Gun and Slammer and it would give both molds opposite allegiances. What I mean by that is that this mold has been used for both Autobots/Maximals, and Decepticons/Predacons. Brunt has been used for both Siege Brunt (Decepticon) and Generations Selects Powerdasher Zetar. Ironworks has been used for both Earthrise Ironworks (Autobot) and Generations Selects Greasepit (Decepticon). Decepticon Airwave has been used for both Earthrise Decepticon Airwave (Decepticon) and for Generations Selects Hot House (Autobot). Paleotrex has been used for both Kingdom Paleotrex (Predacon) and Generations Selects Transmutate (Maximal). And finally, Ractonite has been used for both Kingdom Ractonite (Predacon) and Tricranius (Maximal). The Molds which haven't been used by both allegiances so far are are Siege Cog, Siege Six-Gun, Earthrise Decepticon Fasttrack, and Wingfinger. (2 Autobot-Exclusive Molds, 1 Decepticon-Exclusive Mold, and 1 Maximal-Exclusive Mold.) And Slammer is going to be an Autobot-Exclusive Mold. Meaning that they could balance the amount of Weaponizers, Modulators, and Fossilizers could be balanced if they find a use for Siege Six-Gun (Metroshot), Slammer (Metrotank), Wingfinger (create new character), and Cog (Don't Know). And I say they could use the Earthrise Decepticon Fasttrack mold, with a lot of modifications, and turn it into the Powered Buggy. I am attempting to figure out potential uses for each mold. And using pieces from Siege Cog, Siege Six-Gun, and Earthrise Decepticon Fasttrack could possibly work to make the Powered Buggy. Considering its original toy partsformed, it would make sense. And it would make the Tyrant Spear mode for Fasttrack even more accurate.
     
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    Doh, I knew that there were a bunch I was forgetting. And several I want. I'm interested in how Pipes will be done, as I just got Huffer, and I don't think they'll be doing a turn around so the chest and back are reversed this time. I imagine the cab, head, and chest all need to be remolded. I'd hope the accessories are changed too, they could easily make his guns/pipes plug into the five mm holes on the forearms.

    Shadow Panther... I'll have to see. I've passed on Cheetor so far. Let's see how the mold looks in black.

    Slammer, oh yeah. Chainsaw treads made him a buy.
    Tigatron I'm interested in seeing how much his engineering differs from Cheetor. They traditionally have a identical transformation scheme, but with them bieng different size classes, I'm hoping Tigatron gets his guns implemented, as that's part of why Cheetor doesn't interest me. I've heard rumors of a LeoConvoy remold for selects, but I really hope they make the lions head go on the shoulder and remold the chest. As for Starscream, I passed before, I'll probably pass again while being irritated all the seekers I actually wanted were hard to find.
     
  3. Michael Schlem

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    Though I really hope that the Smilodon Fossilizer (the one armoring up Optimus Primal in the Kingdom Mural) gets released. Then we would be 1 Member Short of a Megazord. Seriously. Transformers Slag Podcasts said it and he wasn't wrong.
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    We have a Tyrannosaurus Rex. We have a Triceratops/Styracosaurus. We have a Pteranodon/Pterodactyl. On the image, we have a Smilodon/Sabertooth Tiger. Just need a Mastodon/Wooly Mammoth and we could have a Megazord (though considering that the Fossilizers have a Bony Aesthetic, it would fit more with the Power Rangers Movie Megazord).
    Besides, what are 2 more Deluxe Class Figures when it comes to the price of all of that?
    Though, looking at the mural again, I am struck by something. 1 Deluxe Fossilizer (The Smilodon), 1 Deluxe Class Figure (Gears), 1 Core Class Figure (the Crocodile/Alligator Fossil Transformer), and 1 Voyager Figure (Polar Claw). I had tried to calculate the possible arrangements of figures possible in the upcoming Kingdom 4-Pack and 1 of my calculations was 1 Voyager Class Figure, 2 Deluxe Class Figures, and 1 Core Class Figure. Four figures adding up to around the Price Point of $79.99. Four original molds in a single 4-Pack. Okay, so the price of the 4-Pack is $79.99. A price of a single Core Class Figure in Kingdom is $9.99. A Deluxe Class Figure is either $22.99 or $19.99 (via the older price point). A Voyager Class Figure is $29.99. $9.99+(2*$22.99)+$29.99 =$87.96. While, using the older Deluxe Class Price point, $9.99+(2*$19.99)+$29.99=$79.96. Putting these 4 Figure would not only create toys based upon them, it would be interesting. How does everyone think of these ideas?
     
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    That lioconvoy remold rumor was bogus
     
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    Honestly can’t wait for wave 4. Tigatron to complete the season 1 bots. Than pipes so I can recreate a certain scene with him and overlord, and possibly waspinator being better than thrilling 30s. Not sure if it will but rattrap beat out the old one and thrilling 30s rhinox aesthetically is still better although the new ones probably a lot more stable, and fun even if it doesn’t look nearly as good.
     
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    Oh I don't know about THAT ;) 
     
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    No more depressing dead collector vids, ok? ;) 
     
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    Just answering a Patreon Listener Question honestly.
     
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  11. Fenrys

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    That pic was nothing more than artwork to pitch the series and shouldn't be used as a guide for things coming out since we know several of the characters depicted never made it past the idea/concept phase (Polar Claw, Gears, and 2 of the fossilizers to be specific)
     
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    No offense to Slammer, but I'd rather have another fossilizer.
     
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    Fair, but given the reveal that they have a combined mode, I feel like 3 deluxe fossilizers might have been all we would ever get considering Beast Wars combiners were 3 bot combiners and there were only 3 weaponizer molds in Siege and 2 modulator/1 weaponizer molds in Earthrise. Kingdom breaks the pattern by giving us a 4th modular figure, but that would throw off the throwback reference of BW and 3 bot combiners (though maybe I'm thinking too hard about that). Granted the artwork also only shows Ractonite, Vertebreak and the 2 that didn't make it. No Paleotrex or Wing Finger as far as I can tell, so again maybe 3 deluxe molds was all there was planned to be.
     
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    But we really should get at least a "Predacon version" of WingFinger shouldn't we? Dark stone color... "SchistStorm":p 
     
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    Yea, I'd bet on a Predacon Wing Finger being one that comes out as a selects or other release
     
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    With us getting T-Wrecks from Kingdom Megatron along with the rumored Nightprowler, Shadow Panther, BW Grimlock, and BW II Skywarp coming in the future I'd be shocked if Hasbro doesn't take the chance to milk the Kingdom BW molds for all their worth in the future with each mold's respective legacy repaint as they've been doing for the WFC G1 molds for Selects. Both Dinobot and Terrorsaur especially have a lot of repaint/retool value so it'd be baffling if Hasbro doesn't take th chance to rope more longtime BW fans into it.

    The examples listed here alone when it comes to straight repaints at least is a good example.

    Kingdom Optimus Primal - Universe Optimus Primal.
    Rhinox - Predacon and Fox Kids color schemes
    Tigatron - Prototype Bengal color scheme
    Blackarachnia - Toy colors, and Horrorcon color scheme
    Waspinator - Buzzsaw, Fox Kids repaint, and Horrorcon color scheme/Parasite
    Tarantulas - Prototype colors
    Scorponok - Prototype colors, Double Punch, and Sandstorm
    Dinobot - Fox Kids repaint, Armada Grimlock , Universe/SG color scheme
    Rattrap - Packrat
    Terrorsaur - Fractyl, Lasorbeak, Hydra, Armada Terranotron, Garboyl/AOE Swoop, and the planned Botcon Swoop that was canceled
     
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    What funky color are we banking on it being? Got a clear, purple gemstoney Paleo, got that lava looking red and black Racto, even a nuclear Vertebreak, maybe a lapis wingfinger?
     
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  18. Fenrys

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    There's also Transmutate's funky colors for Paleotrex. If I had to bank on something, I'd say maybe blue for a redeco Wing Finger.
     
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    I'm hoping for a translucent icy blue or white personally. A translucent pink or blueish green could also look cool.

    I actually just had a dream last night they were releasing a half normal bone color, half clear purple Wingfinger and I was disappointed.
     
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    Ice qualifies as a mineral, so it wouldn't be out of the question to be a fossilizer's appearance. Ooh, now I might need Skelivore (sp?) to represent a geode.


    I'm confident that this post will make someone go looking for veracity. So putting it out there now, I'm no geologist... I just like drawing connections and nomenclature.
     
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