I'm reminded of the eBay seller who managed to score/leak Marvel Legends figures, and people would always freak out because his photography always made their heads look 50% bigger than they actually were, completely throwing the proportions out of whack. It was easy to overlook the overall distortions of the photos because we already knew what the base body toolings were like, so our brains just sort of automatically ignored the discrepancies there, and automatically zeroed in on the stand-out feature. The figures always turned out looking great in hand.

 

I think Galvatron's one of those figures that just don't photograph well and will look much better in-hand.

Kind of like when we watch a video review of say, a Titan, and we *think* we have a grasp on how big and dense it is, but we're still shock n' awe'd in person by it. HasLab Unicron, for example, he's roughly 2-4" taller than run-of-the-mill Titans, but he has so much more going on in his construction that he comes across as massive.

I think Galvatron will look better, from all angles, when he's in-hand and we can get a real sense of depth/3-D on him. Maybe he'll still be chonky T H I C C , maybe he'll still be oddly proportioned, but some figures just pull off the visuals so much better in hand than a static picture can provide.

I'm not giving up on him, I'm glad I'm getting him, and I have no animosity for those who don't/aren't. This figure's in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. He's clearly G1-centric and tries to copy the animation where possible, but translating from 2-D cel to 3-D product ain't easy.

 

I wish more users practiced the tried and true method of 'just wait and see' before making such harsh criticisms of a figure or writing it off so soon.

 

Definitely this.

Again, Galvatron's anatomy/proportions are atypical in a lot of ways from most other G1 Transformers designs. Truthfully, these types of proportional anomalies are common in the photography we see, but we just haven't really gotten used to spotting it. Galvatron's unique design, however, unfortunately doesn't have any of the features that would normally hide those distortions, and it's really throwing people for a loop.

 

They may be common but they are never this atrocious

 

He's definitely one of the more kibble-free figures we've seen in a while. It's almost like UT/DX9 designers had a hand in his creation. We're just so used to weird/odd bits dangling off of figures because they couldn't figure out how to compress some ridiculous alt-mode into a reasonably lithe humanoid.

 

That's exactly his point, the discrepancies on Galvatron are exacerbated by his unusual design, most photos hide it better because we are more used to the season 1/season 2 style of designs

 

I'm just gonna drop this here...

 

I meant things like one arm clearly bigger than the other and him looking like Peter Dinklage in some shots lol.

 

Ah, yea, those are definitely a good bit worse than the usual pics haha

 

I'm pretty sure it's just because we don't spot them as easily.

As I mentioned above, with a "traditional" G1 design like Optimus Prime, with narrow biceps and thighs, and thick forearms and boots, the limbs will still taper off to vanishing points, but because the limbs significantly flare out near the extremities, the two elements largely cancel each other out, and the proportions look "as expected".

Galvatron's more limbs, however, are more trunk-like, and don't offer that disruptive flare-out, so all you see is a contiguous taper. And then the lens effect flattens the image, so the brain doesn't clue in to the perspective at play.

 

This thread serves as a reminder that when photographing toys, it is always better to stand farther away and use a zoom lens than it is to stand close and use a wide-angle lens.

 

I get that I was referring to the fact the person doing the photos is shocking.

The brain does clue in on these cause its obvious they are distorted to hell regardless of Galvatron's unusual design cues.

 

I see what you're saying about the shoulders, it does feel like they should sit higher on the joint. I've noticed that the heavyset torso is a bit of a trend with Galvatrons, between this, the TR version, and FansToys Sovereign, and I can sort of see why. His character model's body is rounder and more monolithic when compared to Megatron's (with the starkly rectangular chest and tapered abdomen section), and you could argue that plays into Galvatron's blunt, barbaric nature (vs the more conniving and scheme-y Megatron). I know I'm waaay overthinking it, but that's the best way I can articulate why the proportions on Kingdom Galvatron are growing on me. That and the proportional weirdness more or less vanishes (to my eyes) in the photos where he's actually posed up.

 

We're going to need to agree to disagree. Rodimus would be better priced as a leader. Not a commander. He's not worth a commander price and certain doesn't have the engineering for it. And Galvatron, is a leader class figure, but is smaller than a TR Voyager. That's a problem with Hasbro's ever growing problem with shrinkage and raising prices. I mean, shit, they are trying to sell Beast Wars Rattrap, a basic, that cost 5 dollars when it came out, as a deluxe for $20. Hasbro doesn't give a fuck about us. They want as many people to blindly buy their bullshit with no objectivity.

And your source for this is....?

 

The sooner we get video footage of this Leader Galvatron, the sooner we can put an end to the proportion debate.

 

Even if the pictures do have some level of warping, the comparison shots reveal he's still not a figure i'd be interested in. Posing him is difficult because of the gaps where his hands fold into being on display in his most iconic poses, coupled with his tank treads failing to fold in half making them look obnoxious during poses and he's smaller than Ultra Magnus despite generally being depicted as the exact same size or taller when they fought. The chest still looks wider than it should be and a lot of the shots have to peg the cannon into the upper shoulder as it looks over-sized otherwise.

 

You want objectivity? Take a fall of cybertron figure and compare it to any current figure of the same price point. All you've stated is opinions and an obvious disdain for a company whose sole purpose is to make money.

 

Just took a pic of something and the proportions on it in one of the photos looked way off than in person.



second pics bottom half looks way off due to the angle



I also think the head will look better in person. Dinobot’s Raptor head is actually pretty good, the real issue is his teeth and being designed with an overbite.

 

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