A Canadian Beast War would be the Moosebots vs Beavercons for control of the maple syrup.

 

If this is about Bumblebee being connected to the Bay movies, that's not true. A lot of the stuff in Bumblebee is completely incompatible with the Bay universe

 

Yeah a couple of things were retconned:
- Bumblebee not fighting in WW2 like the TLK flashback, which could simply mean that was a different Autobot that shared the same body-type as Bumblebee like Cliffjumper.
-The Autobots departure being the result of the Decepticons winning the war as opposed to the AllSpark...however, in the same film Optimus mentioned there are other Autobots scattered across the galaxy even before Optimus ordered his unit to get to the escape pods so those other Autobots already out there among the cosmos could possibly be the search party searching for the AllSpark.
Personally, I don't know for sure, but I do know while researching franchises that other long running franchises are riddled with retcons.

 

At this point I don't see it being a direct Bay prequel, although I am curious if they'll try to keep it loosely connected. I could sort of see them trying to play both sides, so as not to confuse casuals who think Bumblebee is a prequel (and there do seem to be a fair amount of people who walked away thinking it was a prequel to the '07 film). I personally think they should commit to one approach or the other, but you never know. I could see them writing a script that doesn't flat out contradict anything major in the Bay films, so as to maintain some loose continuity.

 

It’s not. Got to get out of the denial stage at this point.

 

It's kinda baffling that people still think this after Hasbro explicitly called Bumblebee a "new storytelling universe."

 

They wouldn’t even fight, the whole movie would just be autobots and decepticons arguing politely.

 

I've been studying and watching many franchises these past few months, particularly long running ones, I think the Transformers franchise going forward will try to reinvent themselves with new directors, sort of like Bad Boys 3 and Scream 5, but still have some things somewhat consistent, through call-forwards like Agent Burns saying the Decepticons could possibly attack Chicago if they're not careful, then Dr. Powell saying "That'll never happen".... *insert Chicago Invasion*, and maybe a few inconsistencies here and there,

Which is honestly kind of vague. I mean the "old storytelling universe" had one director or one storyteller for all five films aka the Bay directed ones, while this new storytelling universe could mean this time there won't be just one director's vision, but rather multiple ones aka not just Michael Bay and Travis Knight, but Steven Caple Jr. and Josh Cooley. "Multiple Storytellers" giving their own "fresh" vision for this universe. Until 2022, I think it's too early to say if they are disconnected, until something in the next film outright contradicts the Bay Films in a big way like Megatron being out and about or say Starscream and Ironhide dying earlier than in the Bay films. As Bumblebee introduced The Seekers and Cliffjumper it does open up the possibility that TLK WW2 "Bumblebee" might not have been Bumblebee.

A "reset" could just mean that the human side of the Transformers story is restarting from the beginning.

 

If the words "reboot", "a new timeline", and "a new storytelling universe" won't convince you it's an entirely different continuity from the Bayverse, then nothing will.

Jesus, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

 

Transform and Roll oot eh!!

 

Dude, Bumblebee isn't connected to Bayverse. It's now it's own thing with the Bay continuity being left behind as said multiple times by Hasbro and Paramount despite a certain producer trying to say otherwise for a little bit..

 

Care to explain why optimus left earth 3 times and acts like it's a new planet hes never heard of before

 

Maybe she still can

 

Hell, even Lorenzo said it was a reboot after some time.

 

Huh. So we'll have an X-Men scenario where they inadvertantly cast one of the Beast Wars voice actors in a bit part and create an accidentally shout out.

 

If it's beast wars, then expect Octo-moose Primal vs Beav-atron...

 

It's not that nothing will change my mind, it's just I'm waiting till I see the next film and rather it has any major contradiction then I will 100% know the Bay films aren't connected. I just want other people to maybe temper their expectations on the next film and not to take information at face value as it could have another meaning. As the film industry tends to create "buzz words" to let the audience know that their new installments of a long running franchise is something different. Because if it turns it's not starting over, maybe fans won't admit they jumped to conclusions because they might have jumped the gun.
Similar to fans reaction to WandaVision in how their theories were not coming true due to misinformation or a misinterpretation of a quote from an interview. For example, in the Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany situations. When she was asked by an interviewer if there will be a Luke Skywalker-level cameo, she said yes, and headlines read "Elizabeth Olsen said expect a Luke Skywalker level cameo in WandaVision". Paul Bettany said fans will be excited to know he will work with an actor he always wanted to work with, fans then theorized legendary actors, and then it turned out he was talking about himself and they blamed the show for not living up to those expectations.

Here are some examples I've come across in my research on franchises sort of reinventing themselves. One is X-Men: First Class, at first believed to be a reboot; more comic accurate costumes than the original trilogy, but it was a prequel. The franchise wasn't rebooted until the sequel, X-Men Days of Future Past, and also was a crossover with the prequel cast and original cast. Although X-Men: First Class existed in both timelines. Another instance is G.I. Joe Retaliation which was described as a reboot, because none of the other cast besides Duke, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Zartan but it continues the story threads from the first film, Rise of Cobra, in Zartan masquerading as the president. Recently Scream (2022) is described as a revamp of the franchise, but is a sequel to the first four, with the original big three, Sidney, Gale, and Dewey returning, along with Deputy Hicks from Scream 4. Director's visions for a next installment film can be a way to reinvent the franchise, while also not forgetting anything that came before it, like Thor Ragnarok, although a sequel was nothing like the first two films, due to the vision of director Taika Waititi.

Yes "The Bumblebee Barrel"

 

Except Anthony Hopkins' character literally confirmed it was Bee after the WWII clip was shown.

 

Bumblebee also didn't seem to know him.
Sir Edmund Burton: "Uh, Bumblebee we only met when I was a little boy in short pants, I could be this tall maybe taller I can't remember, but I'd never forget a face."

Cade Yeager: "Bee, do you know this guy?"
*Bumblebee has skeptical look*
Bumblebee: "I don't f-with you."

 

Maybe cause they first meet when Anthony Hopkins' character was just a kid? I mean, obviously Bee wouldn't have recognized him as a much older person. Regardless, this is a moot point as his WWII figure is called "Bumblebee". I honestly can't believe there is an argument about this.