Jupiter’s Legacy

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    I checked the comic and the synopsis of the issues and... god, another drama-fest that is trying to deliver a political message? For Primus' sake, can we not have a superhero show that is just FUN???
    I swear I enjoyed the 1990 Flash show where he just fights various criminals and supervillains every week and tries to keep his identity secret, more than any of these "oh comic books are not for kids, they are serious business" shows.

    It's incredibly simplicistic. Mark Millar likely read Superman comics and was like "If I was Superman, I'd just take over the world and run it better!" You know, like the Justice Lords episodes of the JL show, except leaving out the rather important motivation that made Superman kill Luthor and take over, namely that he almost started a nuclear war. Here, Walter the main hero guy's brother just
    gets annoyed his brother and sister-in-law don't let him go and tell Obama how to handle the recession, so he gathers all the other heroes and brutally murders them. Then still fails to end recession. Then most of the rest of the series is the two kids hiding in australia and then recruiting supervillains to fight the heroes.
    I also think Millar has very little imagination when he created these superheroes. Look at their list of powers, they are all basically "flight, super strength, some sort of telekinesis".
    Also given how these 6 got their powers
    -from aliens -
    how can there be any credible supervillains for them to fight? Clearly any villains would just be regular people with tech.

    It's really annoying that they are taking such relatively recent stories and adapting them, spending millions on something that has not yet stood the test of time. Take stories from the 80-ies90-ies, the early 2000s - not something that started in 2013 and is still running. Because who knows how well this will hold up in 10 more years? People praised "Cry For Justice" or "Countdown" too when they came out, or Marvel Ultimates, and look how well those held up since then...

    I dunno. I liked that movie. Yes it has flaws, but it built an original universe for its story that I'd like to know more about, with Dune-style financial empires ran by immortals, GL/Starfleet style space cops, and had some amazing creature and spaceship designs. Dunno if you heard about Age of Wonders Planetfall, but the ships and units of the machiavellian Syndicate factions are clearly inspired by the ship designs of that movie. But yeah, the movie is mostly brought down by how uninteresting our main character is, who is mostly just along for the ride as a viewer proxy.
     
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    Thank goodness you are here to project your interpretation onto the man. It's not like there's hundreds of interviews in existence to hear about his true feelings on Superman.
     
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    Yawn, another totally subversive and super serious look at the super hero genre, never seen that done before.

    Everyone wants to be the next Watchmen or The Boys (at it's best).
     
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    Isn't that one of the many plot threads from Kingdom Come?
     
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    Yes, but not a major one.
     
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    Isn't it kind of the central one?
     
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    I believe that the central theme of KINGDOM COME was about superhumans and their place in the world. They need to be inspirational, to bring out the best of others and they need to have have empathy in saving people, otherwise they're just superior beings looking to get taken down.
     
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    The central theme was Mark Waid making a case that the Silver Age heroes weren't outdated and pushing back against the Image era/Dark Age, who were represented by Magog and the younger generation of heroes, who are grittier, willing to kill, etc. Superman steps aside when he feels like he's outdated and his interpretation of heroism is outdated. He comes back when their way isn't working. It's Waid's meta message for the industry. That's what Kingdom Come is about.
     
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    It's a great, if truncated, story. Deserved a much fuller run rather than the few issues it received.

    The bad thing about future stories in continuity, though, is that now all the titles are beholden to that outcome. It's a curse that Batman writers had to struggle with after the success of The Dark Knight Returns. I'm sure it was reason #43 why DC went to New 52 when it did.
     
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    There were 20 other alternative futures in Batman between Dark Knight Returns and the New 52. The dark knight was never the official future of Batman just a popular story writers an artists like referencing or using aspects of.
     
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    Looks nice
     
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    Man this looks bad. Such uninspired boring costumes I can barely tell them apart. Everyone has the same armor style, just different colors, like they are power rangers.
    Dunno who not-Superman is played by but he looks like someone cosplaying a Even Almighty in a superman suit. And did they just totally ripped off Darkseid? That grey skinned bald blue armored guy looks exactly like him.
     
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    Parts of this looks pretty good, others look incredibly cheap, reminds me of Shark Boy and Lava Girl quality.
     
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    Just finished the season and it was surprisingly good. Not much in action but a great origin story and a good setup for S2. The ending was all kinds of fucked up though.
    I take it Netflix series are no longer 13 episodes, which is great for less filler episodes.
     
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    https://www.herocollector.com/en-us/Article/jupiters-legacy-review?utm
    Well, when even Herocollector, who kisses the ass of every vaguely superhero-related show all the time, says the show is uneven and sloppily written with characters barely introduced before dying and other characters completely disappearing from the show, you know this is a trainwreck.
     
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    I binged the whole series yesterday. I thought it was awesome.
     
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    Got to end of ep 2 or 3 before I literally fell asleep. Might try again when it isn't late, but what I remember was....hokey. The fight scenes just looked cheesy as shit, it felt like you could almost see the wires they were flying around on, like a high school play about super heroes. Old guy makeup looks fake as hell, costumes look like high end Halloween "I'm in a wetsuit of thick rubber plates" bad. The writing wasn't anything special either.

    Still, I'm curious to know what the whole island in the trailer was about so I'll try again.
     
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