R.E.D. isn't scale centric nor was it ever intended to be in the first place.

R.E.D. is and always was intended to be it's own thing so people crying about scale are wasting their time.  

The figures are fine as is. sure the colors may not be perfect but they are designed exactly as they were always advertised to be: 6 inch super poseable Action figures.

They aren't supposed to scale with each other and never were suggested to be so in the first place.

Again they're 6 inch "Action figures". Celebrating the Robot Modes of the characters they are based from.

 

This ^^^^^^

 

No, that's Optimus Prime because it says as much on the package. It's no more just a red and blue truck than the RED figure is just a red and blue robot.

You guys get too caught up over semantics, which is fine for your collections and what you buy or whatever, but the long short-end of it in reality is that toys that may not be text book "transformers" like RED are still very much "Transformers".

 

"NooooOOooo, you can't just sell products i don't like!! You have to sell only the things i like!!!"

 

Except they aren't super posable. Or super anything...

The Box is ALWAYS right! So, 3P figures are not "Transformers" even though they transform because the packaging determines Identity? Honestly I'm not being a dick I'm trying to see where you're coming from with this. Is it a hard line, or does it move at your own whim.

 

They aren’t though. And that’s my biggest problem with the line. We’ve seen from Cheetor and other design sketches that at one point there were intended to be super-posable, but a significant amount of that articulation was cut prior to production.

As it stands, they don’t have as much articulation as Marvel Legends, etc and don’t have as much articulation as some transforming retail releases. So what’s the point?

 

I know, but every time Hasbro/Takara makes a mistake due to laziness/thoughtlessness, you have this chorus of people saying they totally did it that way on purpose. When RED suddenly ends ("goes on hiatus"), it'll totally be on purpose too and we'll hear how the market just wasn't ready for it yet or some other blame shift.

 

I am neither a hasbro hater nor a hasrbo lover. I just want good toys regardless of who makes them.
When RED was announced, I was stoked. Cartoon accurate bots that were affordable and did not take up much space, sign me up. After seeing the first wave, I was happy enough to go all in. Then after seeing starscream and Bumblebee, yeah...not so much.

My heart is with the MP line and scale, but I just can't justify the cost. Its not that I can't afford it, it's just that I don't want to anymore. Every figure is a minimum of $150 anymore and I just don't have the stomach to plunk that down when I have a house, a wife, 3 cars and a raging cocaine habit.... ok, that last one is not true.

This line was supposed to be my savior for a toon accurate season 1 bot collection. Guess not.

Thank odin for toymakr3d and his awesome work. I will just print those instead.

 

Not trying to start an argument here, but when did they say they weren't gonna scale even with other RED figures? I must have missed that. They're advertised on Walmart's website as 6 inch scale, which as a Legends/Black Series collector implies that they're tall relative to 6 inches, not that they're all 6 inches tall exactly. Before I saw the figures I would have assumed characters like Smokescreen, Bumblebee and Knockout would be around 6 inches each, while Arcee would be a little smaller and Optimus would be larger. It doesn't make me want the figures I was already planning to get any less, it was just a bit of a disappointment when I saw how the line didn't, in fact, abide by any sense of scale with itself.

 

So not looking forward to RED Devastator then? Me either...

 

I want R.E.D. Devestator to be a build a figure while the constructions are regular figures that the parts come with.

 

I could see going in on that. Especially if the individual robots "fit" well enough in with the mainline for me.

 

There's gonna be a RED Devestator?

 

If RED ever evolves to having build-a-figures, I could definitely see that happening. I'd be down for it.

 

It might make it to fruition, as reaction advertises a devastator in its line.



BTW, @Nemesis Baser you're due for a challenge... almost free4all.  

 

Sadly, SuperSlacker slipped into a coma in which he never recovered from.

 

I'd love a bunch of obscure repaints out of all of these guys.



Diaclone Devastator anyone?


Or Shattered Glass Devastator?

Devastator has never made an appearance and the Constructicons only made brief cameos but we can see what kind of colors Devastator would be.

 

I'm saying you're too worried about every "Transformer" (character/brand) having to be a transformer (function of the toy as a descriptor) when that's not now or has ever been the case. Action Masters are still Transformers. RED Figures are still Transformers. Furai Model kits are also still Transformers. That JADA Optimus Prime may just be the vehicle, but it is still Optimus Prime and it is still a part of Transformers. But while some Gundams or the various Megazords are transformers or transforming toy, they are not "Transformers". Understand?

Also 3P is IP infringement, the literal exception to the rule as the product breaks them all. Sure, we call them "Transformers" and say that's what they're making, but technically and (for the sake of those companies being able to actually sell their product outside of China) legally? No, 3P are transformers but they are not really "Transformers".

 

Just for my own fun, I'll come up with further waves for the ReAction series. A * means the figure is repainted/remolded.

4. Prowl, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Wheeljack, Skywarp*, Thundercracker*, Bombshell, Kickback
5. Ironhide*, Trailbreaker, Hound, Sunstreaker, Frenzy*, Ravage, Laserbeak + Buzzsaw*, Reflector
6. Bluestreak*, Cliffjumper, Omega Supreme, Thrust*, Ramjet*
7. Hot Rod, Springer, Arcee, Ultra Magnus, Kup, Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge
8. Rodimus Prime, Wreck-Gar, Blurr, Unicron, Ratbat
9. Sludge, Snarl, Swoop, Slag, Predaking
10. Brawn, Gears, Huffer, Windcharger, Acid Storm*, Octane, Sharkticon, Allicon
DIACLONE BOX-SET: Delta Magnus*, Magna Convoy*, Spin-Out*, Protect Black Ironhide* Bluestreak (blue)*, Exhaust*, Salvo*, Shot Hole*, Zaptrap*, Overcharge*

 

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