Netflix WfC Trilogy discussion thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Shackstoys, Feb 15, 2019.

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Will it be good?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No!

    115 vote(s)
    18.2%
  3. I'm from the future and all who said yes were right!

    105 vote(s)
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  4. I'm from the future and all who said no were right!

    154 vote(s)
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  5. I'm from the future and there was never a Titan class Skorponok figure!! Please hastak!!!

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  1. Night Flame

    Night Flame TFW2005 Supporter

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    I think Hasbro's policy towards this show can be summed up pretty succinctly. "Adult fans will watch whatever trash we put out so save the budget for something else."
     
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    They're two kids from Armada that are useless and annoying as hell.
     
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  3. Night Flame

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    Imagine, if you will, you pay for the opening night dinner for BotCon thinking you'll get a nice experience plus a cool exclusive like had happened in years past. Then, imagine, if you will, that your cool exclusive was reduced to a package of retail available Armada toys and a preview of a not quite complete first episode of Armada, and your introduction to Billy and Fred. Then imagine trying to contain your disappointment so you didn't depress the rest of the table you were sitting with.

    That BotCon was a cluster for a multitude of reasons, but the Armada preview was the thing that truly stands out as horrific. While, years and years later when I finally watched Armada, I have found some redeeming moments, I'll never quite get over that initial system shock.
     
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  4. mn_128875

    mn_128875 Well-Known Member

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    They are not TFs but you’re better off not knowing who they are. If you really want to know
    they are simply some of the worst fictional characters ever. They never do anything useful. I absolutely despise the armada humans but I can acknowledge that they did something. These guys just scream and whine 95% of the time they ruin perfectly good scenes with their really annoying voices. They’re one of the many reasons why I hate armada.
    TLDR: If you ever want to legally mentally torture someone show them an 8 hour compilation of them. They’ll be dead within 10 seconds.
     
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  5. TheUltimateBum

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    "William and Frederick" (since calling them Billy and Fred is way too chummy) are humans from the Armada cartoon. They're two bullies who in the end ally with the main humans, but they basically become the whiny ones of the humans. "Frederick" in particular is the worst (and the one I unfortunately remember the most), since at least "William" is kinda forgettable.

    (And yup, I always found Springer to be the one of the most overrated characters in G1; he's just a non-entity without personality other than uttering lame jokes and insults)
     
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  6. Rapidfirestormer

    Rapidfirestormer Not Even Remotely Dorky

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    I think this sums up how useless those two were:
    According to "Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003," the only reason Billy and Fred were in the entire series was that the producers planned to write them out of the story, but never got around to doing so.
     
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    Necromaster FEAR ME MORTALS

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    Fred definitely sucks, but also whenever he spoke in the English dub, all I could hear was this guy:

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    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    Ok, thanks guys. I get the impression I should just avoid this pair altogether!
     
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  9. shockwave2005

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    It's funny to me that the WFC Trilogy is making older shows like TFP or the UT seem like works of art. I saw a clip from Prime a few days ago, and just the pace of the dialogue made it seem like a masterpiece compared to WFC.

    I'm not going to see if this holds true for the UT though. I'm not that much of a glutton for punishment.
     
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  10. YellowCorvette

    YellowCorvette Average Core Gundam enjoyer

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    Ehh, both Billy and Fred aren't my favourite human characters but I've seen worse characters from other shows; Kira Yamato from Gundam SEED Destiny would be an example of such.

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    Speaking of which, how Optimus Prime was depicted in the Netflix series really reminds me of Kira Yamato as he appears in Gundam SEED Destiny; In that narratively the show really wants for you to side with them and sees them as the "Big Hero" whose actions was always in the right, even if the action they took were anything but that.
     
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    IMO, "William and Frederick" are bad, but they don't make my top five worst TF characters. They would just make the dishonorable mentions.
     
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    4F9F4394-597E-43A9-85BF-11A086F04F7D.jpeg Seriously though, this Optimus prime couldn’t lead himself out of a paper bag
     
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  13. Rojixus

    Rojixus Celebrating 40 Years of Transformers!

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    Spoiler: The one Optimus has is a fake, Rodimus Prime has the real Matrix and he's coming back to bust some heads!
     
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    Don't put this in blue text.
     
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    Alpha Trion also thinks banishing someone to hell forever is a humane punishment, so yeah, that tracks.
     
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    Rojixus Celebrating 40 Years of Transformers!

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    Which leaves us asking the question of why he didn't do that to Megatron as soon as he started going off the reservation.
     
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    Necromaster FEAR ME MORTALS

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    Alpha Trion is a moron, which might explain why he's dead now.
     
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    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    I've never (ever) liked Rodimus, but at this point I'd be happy if he stepped into WFC, took the matrix by force, and beat some sense into OP. Optimus is simply awful in this series, and absolutely deserves a thorough ass-kicking. Or if the series isn't ready for the flame-chested one, then I'll take Wheeljack Prime, Elita Prime, Ironhide Prime, Jetfire Prime... they're all more decisive than this whiney iteration of Optimus.
     
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  19. skwonderfactory

    skwonderfactory Me Scott like Transformers!

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    Just finished episode 4 of Siege and it was by a mile my favorite so far! A lot of things to like here, even if the script is a mixed bag. I’m kinda used to the voice acting my how.

    I can’t believe Starscream/the Seekers chest cockpit is faux just like the toy and is actually on the back of their jet modes just like the toy.

    Did Hasbro develop the toys and show simultaneously to make sure even the kibble was accurate, fake or not? :lol 
     
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  20. Rojixus

    Rojixus Celebrating 40 Years of Transformers!

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    The show just used the CAD files for the toys to make the character designs and called it a day.
     
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