Well said. I was generally a fan of the show but this kind of stuff put me off.

 

I was around for G1 and loved it, but TFPrime is my favorite. Love the art direction, the characters, the voice acting, music, animation, and the toys. It brought me back into Transformers and into collecting.

Happy 10th!

 

They seriously need to rerelease this toyline or just do an SS version of it...

 

Great show! Got me into collecting tfs.

 

I was excited for it, tried really hard to like it, but this show puts me to sleep every time. Its like a boring fanfic who thinks its grim and serious and cool but not... The animation looks nice tho

 

Ahh, Good (Bad?) Ol' Prime Unicron. The original Weaponizer (come on, you know it is true). He came with his Arms Micron Buddy Bogu (which in essence is an old Battle Master). Essentially, the concepts behind the WFC Trilogy truly was an evolution of Transformers Prime's toyline in Japan (which was a sequel to the original War For Cybertron video game. Crazy!).

 

God I remember not knowing anything about The hub or A new TF show, I'm glad I found the channel and watched the first episode the day of it's premiere. God I feel old (I was pretty young when it started)

 

A time long ago but not forgotten

 

Likely because it didn't fit into any of Hasbro's established price points and at the time between movie stuff, Prime stuff, and the rest of Cyberverse their allotted shelf space at retail was all used up.

But, we're finally getting Breakdown, maybe a Unicron will get a reissue, too?

Perhaps a fair criticism, but I think even 10 years ago I felt Hasbro's attempt at aligning all of that under one shared continuity was a mistake. People can argue about whose fault that was, but the truth is Aligned didn't work because of a very simple fact: Not once did I ever sit down to play through to the end of FoC and said "oh yeah, this definitely leads into Transformers Prime", even with the little changes Highmoon made in the story it still doesn't match up, and I don't think anyone with a straight face could say they felt differently. Honestly, even if the showrunners 100% complied with what Hasbro wanted, the continuity still wouldn't have held up against scrutiny and as an idea was bound to fall apart and be doomed from the start.

 

I am a fan of the orignal Transformers to the core. But about once a decade, an animated series comes along that really impresses me. Past excamples are Beast Wars, Car Robots, and of course Prime. I didn\'t care for the toys, but the animated series was epicly amazing!. Unforttunatley its been all downhill since. Netflix WFC was ok, in that, the bar had been set so low already. It\'s been almost a decade, heopfully whatever comes next will really be impressive. I\'ve watched Prime so many times I have it burned in my brain, still a great series though. 

 

Happy 10th anniversary to one of the greatest transformers show. 

 

Good times.

Sadly nothing they did with Bulky ever topped his First Edition.

The vehicons are fantastic, not just a great toy (both times) but also a clinic in how to do army builders.

However, my most impactful toy was Arcee\'s mainline toy.  Liked her, liked her weird fish/bat (?) retool, liked the Chromia retool so much tracking down her redecos felt like an accomplishment (seriously, siege Chromia was in the dog house for months because the last model was so damn great).

 

The best example of how much the people behind Prime didn't want to be held to anything from the rest of the Aligned continuity is what I've called "Schrodigner's Trypticon".

Namely, for those who don't know or are unaware, in FOC - the supposed part of the continuity before Prime - Megatron forcibly has a paraplegic Trypticon (he's conscious of what's happening but he can't move or speak) permanently reconfigured into the Nemesis as punishment for failure in the previous game.

However, in the Prime episode Flying Mind, there is a consciousness in control of the Nemesis thanks to Dark Energon that really doesn't like anybody - especially its own Decepticon crew - and the show runners went out of their way in an interview to make it clear this intelligence was not Trypticon. At the same time, the exact reason for this has never been given and I would dealy love to get it out of those idiots just what their oh-so-grand idea was by not making it Trypticon. Namely, because it being Trypticon adds a lot of rationale to what actually happens in that episode as far as why the ship is suddenly sentient and hates its own crew, but as it stands, the only purpose of this sentient ship was to decode more plot device coordinates and nothing else.

This gets worse when thanks to the Rik Alverez panel that revealed what an utter shitshow this cartoon was in every possible way behind the scenes, as they apparently had arguments in-studio about making the ship be Trypticon or not...even though by the continuity this should not have even been in question, the decision already made by FoC. The Prime artbook even has concept art of a robot mode for Trypticon...why does this exist if they never were going to make the ship Trypticon in the first place?

The only rational, logical deduction of all this is that the show runners insisted the ship was not Trypticon purely to throw a middle finger at the idea of having to follow the details of the setting as dictated by others.

This just ties into the bigger reason why Prime is seen with such distaste - the show had insane potential. And it was all flushed down the toilet because of incompetent writing and moreover the egos in charge who didn't want to do the one thing they were hired to do which was follow simple story guidelines.

 

It's hard to match the excitement being a Transformers fan was back then. We'd just come off of Animated, we had DOTM landing which looked so much better than ROTF, we had an awesome new game, the toys were the best they'd ever been, and Prime started out epic.

I can't think of another time in Transformers when everything about it seemed great, or at least relatively high quality.

I'm surprised that was never a gimmick sub-line.

 

I missed out on Dreadwing, I\'ve wanted him for years.  I was only a kid when Prime was airing, I only saw his toy on shelves once. 

 

I think its just a reminder that these big "cross continuity" projects are more difficult to arrange than any executive thinks. Sometimes studios just want to do their own thing and not be weighed down by other off-shoots.

 

Except this wasn't even that limited - all the people on Prime had to do was follow a few rather generous guidelines.

Prime goes out of its way to flaunt these guidelines.

 

Wow 10 years already.  I really liked TF Prime and I still have my TF Prime Soundwave figure.  For the past few years I\'ve been really busy and Transformers fell by the wayside.  Recently though, I started watching Transformers Robots In Disguise, on Netflix.  I\'m liking it so far and I really like the animation.  Bumblebee looks great and I\'m glad he talks. 

 

Ah. My mistake.. If I recall didn't High Moon resist too? Not to the degree the Prime staff did but they weren't on board until hasbro told them they had no choice?

 

It's been a while so I don't recall, but Hasbro absolutely forced changes into FOC to try and tie more into Prime, like OP originally being just "Optimus" in WFC before becoming a prime but suddenly 'Orion Pax' becomes his pre-Prime name.