Earthrise Prowl/Ironhide And Ramjet/Dirge Sets Revealed

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Shin Densetsu, Jul 17, 2020.

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  1. B3k

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    Honestly having worked in logistics it could have happened almost any time, the amount of times I've see someone put some crazy heavy parcel on a light one, or a box fall off one pallet to be crushed by another pallet. Or worst of all bottles of vinegar just almost randomly bursting and wrecking so much stuff.
     
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    Don't know but that is an intriguing question. Technically prowl and Ironhide were in the 86 movie. I could see them being shoved into later studio series waves or showing up at discount stores. Heck something has to happen to the stock being made it's definitely not getting to us widespread.
     
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    If we could get a repaint of Prowl with the correct gray plastic upper legs and abs, include the missing shoulder cannons, and some vintage toy inspired paint details I would be ecstatic. Prowl is my favorite of the Datsun brothers and one of my favorite G1 figures since he was my 2nd Transformers I ever had as a kid. But I feel the Earthrise Prowl is the worst of the Earthrise Datsan brothers.
     
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    Well, mine just got pushed back from 'Expected Nov 19-Dec 1' to 'Expected Dec 1'. At least it wasn't cancelled yet?
     
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    The exclusives are just redecos and remolds of retail figures though, and we only have a sample size of two waves to go by.

    Based on wave 1, wave 2 wouldn't have any remolds, clean decos, or mix-and-match accessories (not counting Battlemasters as accessories) as with Nemesis Prime coming with ER ops trailer and POTP Nemesis accessories.

    I would not be shocked to see either Ironhide or Ratchet resurface at some point down the road, whether being reissued (ala Redwing) or with a slightly different deco.
     
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    it depends on what’s the agreement with Amazon. They could say “we get these two and no one else can release them” doesn’t matter about the molds it could be about the characters and this version used. Sure ratchets mold is being used as another exclusive but it’s not the same deco or character technically. Punch is being released but as another amazon exclusive. It might just come down to a song saying “these versions of these characters an only be released by us”
     
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    I don't know of any store exclusive where the store gets to lay claim to the mold itself, just the specific packaged toy release.
     
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    technically it’s not a claim on a mold like ironhide or prowl because it’s already pre-existing but it could be the use of the character in the mold.

    it depends on the contract and agreement. Like I said Punch is once again an amazon exclusive and it’s not like hasbro ever did anything with Repugnus. If a retailer says “we will pay for an exclusive and we will help pay for its production budget then it has to stay with us for X amount if years” then there’s not much else to be done.


    I work for Pepsi. We have exclusives all over the place and we can’t put those in other stores. Example we got that mtn dew frost bite flavor for Walmart. That is Walmart and Walmart only. We can’t put that anywhere else

    a transformers example: classics magnus and Skywarp. Never was released outside target. Same as the seeker three pack last year and the micromasters pack. And I guarantee that will be the same with runabout
     
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    That might also be a market issue. Hasbro didn’t show nearly as much love to collectors when Classics first hit, and the Rainmakers and Runabout aren’t exactly the most in demand characters either.

    As for characters I’ve never heard of Hasbro giving exclusivity of a character to a store that wasn’t tied to a specific release and release window. I’m not saying they will release Ironhide and Ratchet - they didn’t rerelease Siege Skywarp after all- but I am sure they could find a way if they wanted to.
     
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    yes you have. Live action leadfoot. Universal studios Evac.

    I would argue hasbro showed a lot of love to collectors with classics by simply existing. It was a line that nobody expected. It was nothing but a toyline for fans to fill in the gap between Cybertron and the live action movie. There was no real need for classics but hasbro said “let’s make some G1 figures again but update them with modern engineering and modern looks.”
     
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    Leadfoot is a giant walking Target ad. Evac is a character on the ride. They're a bit different from Ironhide and Ratchet.

    Alternators and Classics were their first real attempt to reach out to the adult collectors, but nothing near what they do now. Classics itself was an ad-hoc gap filler between Cybertron and the film toylines.
     
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    yes but it doesn’t change the fact that if Amazon says they want these figures as their exclusive no one else can sell them then there’s no chance of these being released outside them. Retailers pay for exclusives and if it’s their exclusive then no one do anything about it. I’m not saying we won’t be seeing ironhide and prowl again or will be exclusive to amazon but these version will not be. Just like how we are not going to see the another use of ER Skywarp and Thundercracker outside target and all of Amazon’s and others previous exclusives.

    barricade apparently has a Netflix figure coming, I guarantee that’s the siege mold.
     
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    So I guess ramjet/dirge are never coming back in stock, yeah?
     
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    never know but doubt it.
     
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    This limited exclusive stuff on main characters is the worst. Got into this line too late
     
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    Depends on how you define main characters. There are dozens of characters from 84-85, and many of them were originally redecos of each other. There are only so many slots open each year for mainline figures, and they prefer not to use those spots on redecos.
     
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    Yeah, I get what you mean. Still stings when you have to pay through the nose later
     
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    Looks like Nonnef is making a kit for Ironhide/Ratchet! I know feet are the big thing, and several others have tackled that upgrade, so I hope if he does a foot upgrade he also has something lined up for the roof to make it a full sled/battle platform.
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    the shitty thing about it is they released these as limited runs in the middle of a pandemic, when a lot of us couldn't order them because we didnt have jobs at the time. Not doing at least a second run and letting scalpers dick us over on the seekers and such is pretty much a slap in the face.
     
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