Figure King Hi-Res Scans #273

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Gamerlingual, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. mx-01 archon

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    For the zillionth time, that's not how version numbers work. The decimal place isn't just for show. Whole number revisions denote new versions, while the decimal point denotes an iteration/revision. MP-11 is being labelled internally as a "1.5" edition, to make room for MP-53 "2.0", because MP-11 was a retool of MP-03, not a ground-up design.

    Any prior designation of MP-11 as a "2.0" was purely unofficial, and you're only holding on to that because that's what we've been calling him up 'til now because we didn't know any better.
     
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    Really it was more of a 1.5 than a 2.0 and anyway, your complaint is nullified by Takara themselves classifying the new one as a 2.0
     
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  3. IgnikaMarcus

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    Allow me to roll my eyes since I don't care how their decimal system works.
    @Fenrys
    It's not a complaint.
     
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  4. mx-01 archon

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    Willful ignorance is no excuse to rewrite reality.

     
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    Somewhere, someone at Bandai is getting a good laugh about amateurs and making an issue about 2.0 or 3.0
     
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  6. mx-01 archon

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    Well, the only reason these notions were allowed to propagate like this is because previously, TakaraTomy didn't feel the need to differentiate. But MP-44 Convoy sort of changed that game, and now other releases are falling in line to match.

    Bandai was unambiguous from the start, when they released the MG RX-78-2 ver 1.5, and then went on from there. Although now they're sort of muddying the waters with sub-lines now, with the MGEX Unicorn and the upcoming PG Unleashed RX-78-2.
     
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    Willful ignorance and seeing why others would call this a 3.0 Starscream are 2 different things.
     
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  8. mx-01 archon

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    It's willful ignorance when the reason it's called 2.0 is because that's what's going to be on the box, straight from TakaraTomy themselves. To call it something else is being pointlessly stubborn. And then we've laid out why MP-11 didn't count.
     
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  9. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    Ikr. :lol 
     
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    A retool is not considered a new mold . Which is exactly what MP-11 was . Hence , this all new remolded version of Starscream being version 2.0 .
     
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    So if you don’t care how the numbering system works then why are you so adamant about it being a 3.0?

    You can’t just make a big stink and then shrug off logic as “I don’t care.”
     
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  12. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    I don't care why others are arguing calling this totally newly engineered and designed Starscream by, all I know is that I want to buy it when it comes out next summer. :D 
     
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  13. IgnikaMarcus

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    So me seeing why others would call it such = making a big stink?
    Alright. Whatever.
     
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    I mean, when you consistently refute the simple facts stated, and even continuing to belabour the argument after the fact, yes, that’s making a big stink.

    The conversation should’ve ended with “it’s 2.0 because TakaraTomy said so. Retools are not considered 2.0’s because they’re not wholly original.” That was like the first thing said after you asked the question. (You didn’t even ask a question about the numbering, you just said TFW should stop referring to it by its official designation)
     
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    The thing is, It's not a retool, at all. You can't even fit the cape and crown accessories of MP-11 to MP-03. They are different molds.

    It's just that Takara/Tomy is wrong about it. But I will no longer blame TFW2005 for it.
     
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    Yea, sure, takara doesn’t know how to differentiate a remold from a ground up new mold :rolleyes:  maybe the head and where the cape connects might be some of those altered parts?
     
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    That wasn't me.
     
  18. mx-01 archon

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    Screw TakaraTomy. Anybody with functioning eyeballs can see the reused parts.

    What a strange argument to make, especially when a good number of TF retools are for the express sake of adding additional functionality.
     
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    Lol, this is fun! It's like the exact opposite of those people that insisted MP Tigatron was a remold of Cheetor.

    Aaaaaanyway, that Starscream 2.0 sure looks great, doesn't he? June can't get here quickly enough!
     
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    Ah, my bad. But still, you continued to argue when it was clearly explained.

    I mean, the arms and head were retooled. You shouldn't be able to fit them. A retool means some of the toy is new, just not all of it.

    Did you perhaps mean redeco or repaint?