The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Optimus Prime23

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    A new Rodimus HAS to have his battle station. Yeah, I know he didn't use it in the cartoon, but it's too cool not to have. I like the idea that a Prime has to have some sort of platform, and Rodimus' platform was different than Optimus' in function and design. Just redo Rodimus without the changing from Hot Rod gimmick, but with modern engineering and articulation, and his gun in one piece instead of splitting into Hot Rod's guns, and I'm good.
     
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    I get why people want a new Rodimus. I don’t really get the Hot Rod redo demand though. I should acknowledge that I’m an avowed, confirmed, card-carrying Hot Rod hater, just for transparency’s sake here.

    Rodimus is a significant character, and his first MP had a great idea behind it, but it’s very much showing it’s age, and had production problems from day one. Like MP-8, he’s a character that needs a spot that’s current in the line (my theories on 86 cast sales not withstanding).

    For regular Hot Rod, though.... I dunno. The last one of him (28?) is definitely at the weaker end of entries in the line (A-‘s in a world of A+’s, as it were) but I don’t know that it’s in need of updating unless they go hard on pushing out the movie cast.

    Also, wouldn’t it be nicer to have Kup, Blurr, and Springer too? They with Arcee and Magnus did all the actually cool stuff.
     
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  3. Sam

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    Maybe it's because despite being older and less articulated, MP-9 Rodimus still looks better than MP-28 in many ways.

    Hot Rod needs to be bigger than MP-28, though. He should be closer to Ironhide size.

    I think they could work better folding magic to make a Hot Rod and Rodimus in one.

    But alternatively an all-in-one transformation Rodimus could definitely be done too, if they just make his alt-mode smaller.

    I really don't see them making a Rodimus that turns into what? The front of a winnebago that slides into the rest of it? What kind of parts-forming alt-mode is that? At least Prime/s body turns into a stand-alone truck.
    And if they'll make a Rodimus that turns into a Hot Rod car that then slips into the 'trailer', they might as well make a Hot Rod out of that too.

    But that's been done before with MP-9.

    As I said, it makes no sense to me to have Rodimus's body transform into the front half of a winnebago. Looks ugly, for what purpose? Just so he can have a non-toon-accurate battle station?

    It's either gonna be an all-in-one transformation, or it's gonna be a Hot Rod + Rodimus combo.


    The only tricky thing about making Hot Rod and Rodimus in one, is that they'd have to change colour. So at this point I'm just gonna bet on an all-in-one transformation.

    It's a little bit like Cheetor and Tigatron, only to a far more extreme level. Similar robot modes (between MP-28 and a new Rodimus), but entirely different alt modes.
     
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    Think it was based on Hit Rod being A tier and a bot at this point they could simply do better. I could wait , for more bots but the fact he's a pretty high ranking character who comes in at the lower end of the price scale versus a Rodimys or Grimlock actually makes him an ideal redo.

    Even though it seems they purposely g0o out of their way to separate 2.0s from their predecessors, I think Rodimius keeps the trailer, for interaction for himself and possibly humans similar to Prime.

    It would be interesting to get Kup, Blur, or even a Skids next just to compare their sales to the remaining BW sales. Not that I don't like Tigatron, but it looks like hes going to do a Blackarachnia great for BW people, but won't really pick up any extra people. Maybe it's time to go back to that 1 release a year and get some consistency on the G1 side, do we don't have this feast or famine stuff we seem to get
     
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  5. Sam

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    Or what, a new Masterpiece Rodimus is gonna look like this in alt-mode?

    [​IMG]

    No way
     
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    You're only delaying the inevitable. Even Japanese preorder/prepay discounts will eventually surpass stagnant wages. Not even 3P legends collectors will escape for much longer.
     
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    Honestly, I kind of have to disagree about Hot Rod being A-list. The guy seems to be a character that the cartoons had a terrible time making use of, and he’d get shuffled off to a corner a lot. He’s almost more of a plot device to force the rest of the cast to take action, even than a simple archetype like so many of the other carbots.

    That being said, he’s definitely the most visible of the 86 carbots, that I agree with, it just seems wicked early for him to be redone yet again.

    Re: your point on Tigatron (hey, you said his name), this is exactly why I was a staunch believer they wouldn’t go to this degree of redesign. I’ll say I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong, as a Beast Wars fan too, though. Blackarachnia is a far bigger character and lower price point though, so Tigatron specifically is an interesting case.

    My guess is that the reality is simply that BW buyers are a large enough cohort now that they’re relatively close for spending with G1 to be able to justify this kind of release.
     
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    I'll just start off by saying I couldn't care less what they do...I have no intention of buying another MP Rodimus Prime figure...but I don't really see the point of doing a straight up redo of MP-9. MP-9 to me still fits the bill just fine...he looks accurate, clean, proper size, respectable articulation...and it's not like his transformation would be any less of a pain in the ass with where the line has gone. And if they did another battle station/trailer, I don't think they could much improve the size of the alt mode...make the battle station/trailer much smaller for the sake of alt mode and it'd look goofy AF with a huge figure standing in/on it. If/when they redo MP-9, I think they'd have to go all-in-one to make the alt mode size work better with the others and make the figure different and actually be worth redoing/rebuying.
     
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    Who needs more Hot Rod/Rodimus? It's Kup and Blurr that I need for my Movie lineup now and the FansToys prices are outrageous. There are plenty of Springer choices out there. Of course, a TT MP figure will likely be just as outrageous in cost. I'd like to see something other than a V2 next to the V2/V3 Starscream. There are plenty of characters left that still need a V1.
     
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    Hey guys I don't post very often but just have a few questions regarding future G1 MP releases. I've been reading rumors about a possible MP Jazz release next year. Are there any hints pointing towards that?

    Also Shin's mystery MP. Has it been confirmed whether it's an Autobot or Decepticon?

    Also heard rumors about an MP-44 mold Ultra Magnus with add on parts. I find that hard to believe since Takara seems pretty firm on all-in-one transforming MPs.

    I would assume Takara has a pretty good relationship with Lamborghini. Do you guys think there is a chance we could see a V2 Sideswipe in the near future? Takara might do an MP-39+ toy accurate Sunstreaker but after that would it make sense to go ahead and do a V2 Sidewipe
    if Takara is not able release Jazz, Mirage, Trailbreaker, Cliffjumper (due to license issues?) ?

    I'm really curious about the next few MP Autobot releases. I do hope we do get some new MPs like Kup, Blurr & Springer. I'm assuming we'll get a Blaster soon (hopefully) to go along side with V2 Soundwave. The next few MP Decepticons are pretty much a given - V2 Soundwave, Cassettes, Seekers, Galvatron (most logical choice?).
     
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  11. Max Rawhide

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    Definitely.

    But based on the Holy Scale Chart MP Ironhide is about a head too big. According to the HSC the top of Ironhide's head should come to the bottom of Optimus his chest windows, but instead the top of his head is close to Optimus' shoulders. Compensate for this incorrect size of MP Ironhide, and MP-28 is the right size.

    Still haven't seen season 3, have you :D  ? Most of the time Rodimus indeed transforms magically into the entire truck mode (it's a truck, not a winnebago). But there's one instance, the episode "The Face of .." in which Rodimus Prime in one scene transforms and it looks like this:
    [​IMG]

    A loose trailer with a Hot Rod based car, but much bulkier, without the engine and the spoiler more to the front.
     
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  12. Sam

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    Hey, nice post and welcome!

    Where did you hear rumours of a new Magnus using MP-44 as a base?

    Pretty sure Shin's MP is confirmed as an Autobot (and all but confirmed to be Jazz anyway). A few sources have hinted that licencing isn't an issues anymore and that Jazz et al are coming sooner or later.

    High chance of a v2 Sideswipe, since MP-12 just doesn't fit in well with the aesthetics anymore.
    MP-39+ is the designation given to Spinout, for reasons unknown, so that might mean we'll never get a toy-accurate Sunstreaker. Still remains to be seen (MP-39++?)

    The MP design team have said Galvatron isn't a question of if, but simply when (a quote somewhere along the lines of 'every year we wonder if this is the year we'll do MP Galvatron)


    Pure speculation, but I feel like apart from v2 Soundwave and Galvatron, the next likely Decepticon would be a triple-changer, just for the selling point of making a real MP triplechanger.


    Anyway, the next Autobots might be Raiden, who knows.


    I haven't seen Season 3 yet but I remember that screenshot from the last time I was arguing this stance :wink: 

    That's basically Hot Rod's alt mode. So if they're making a Hot Rod alt-mode, then they might as well make some small changes so that the main figure can also turn into Hot Rod. Hell, maybe just swappable parts is the way to do it (like how Inferno/Grapple have swappable chests and helmets).

    Yeah, Ironhide might be a little too big, but I still think MP-28 is too small. Maybe in between the size of the two of them? MP-28 probably feels a lot smaller to me because of his tiny head.
     
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    Thanks Sam! I appreciate it. Regarding the v2 Magnus rumour, a toy reviewer on youtube claimed he heard rumours of Takara wanting to use the MP-44 mold as a base for v2 Ultra Magnus. However he never confirmed where he heard the rumour from. I guess it's just one of rumours we should take with a grain of salt.

    If true that's awesome news about the licensing not being an issue! Would be awesome if Takara announced Jazz or Trailbreaker to be released in 2021. A new movie bot like Kup or Blurr would be great too!

    Oh I didn't notice Spinout was MP-39+. Hahaha. I just got into collecting recently so missed that one. Yup I agree. Hopefully we see a new Sideswipe mold that has the right body proportions and a better face sculpt. He would look amazing beside MP Sunstreaker which in my opinion is the best MP car bot to date. Amazing figure! He was the first MP I bought since I started collecting a few weeks ago. Second was MP-44 Prime. Love him too. I haven't touched the knees though. Hahaha. Just keeping him in a basic standing pose for now.
     
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  14. Sam

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    Since we've seen that the MP-44 mould can work just fine without paint, I guess there would be no issues having some kind of snap-on armour that fits over a bare white version, but I'm not 100% convinced. It would be absolutely amazing though!

    Man, your first two MPs are amazing! Great time to be coming into the game!

    Don't be too afraid of the knees, just make sure you bend the top joint first! They're an easy fix with glue if they do break anyway, from what I've heard (mine are still solid after a year of constant posing).
     
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    Informed AJP that the card I preordered MPM10 and MP Arcee with had been compromised. I had to cancel both, which is fine.

    Only one more MP left for this year, and that's Spinout. I'm actually looking forward to him.
    For 2021, there is no multiple MPs, there is only Zul.....umm, I mean V2 Starscream. :p 
     
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    That really sucks. I wonder how long before Skywarp and Thundercracker preorders go up.
     
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    Which toy reviewer?

    I would think longer than it takes for redecos of cars to go up, certainly. Maybe if Skywarp/Thundercracker go the exclusive route again, they come up a little bit faster. I'm really curious to see what Takara does with this new Seeker mold (and what Hasbro Asia asks for?). I can think of arguments for and against pretty much every scenario (redecos galore, only Skywarp/Thundercracker get redone, redecos but very very slowly, G2/Ghost Starscream before anything else).
     
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    with them being licensed, i think they at least go the general release route with TC&SW. Always a chance we could see one at Wonderfest. they've showed off consecutive mps the last 2 years, and we could easily see one with a end of year release.
     
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    How does v3 scream not have his coronation gear???
     
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    With the coronation gear absent this go-round, I agree with whoever suggested a future dead Starscream release for this mold. I'm kind of picturing a translucent plastic but darker and half-desaturated, an in-the-process-of-dying deco.
     
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